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To: Israel Meinheljewski Goldman who wrote (2852)7/22/1998 7:18:00 PM
From: Israel Meinheljewski Goldman  Read Replies (2) of 12810
 
Larry T. Sherwood's "How to argue effectively"

<<You may have already seen this. I post this as an educational resource for people like David Gore.>>

I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on
any topic, against any opponent. People know this and steer clear of me at
parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me.
You too can win arguments. Simply follow these rules:

Drink liquor.
Suppose you are at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding on
the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. If you're drinking
some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang back, afraid to
display your ignorance, while the hotshot enthralls your date. But if you
drink several large martinis, you'll discover you have STRONG VIEWS about
the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH of information. You'll argue
forcefully, offering searing insights and possibly upsetting furniture.
People will be impressed. Some may leave the room.

Make things up.
Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove that
Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that YOU are
underpaid, and you'll be damned if you're going to let a bunch of Peruvians
be better off. DON'T say: "I think Peruvians are underpaid." Say instead:
"The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars adjusted for the revised tax
base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is $836.07 before the mean gross poverty
level."

NOTE: Always make up exact figures.
If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT up too.
Say: "This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study for the Buford
Commission published on May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?" Say this in the
same tone of voice you would use to say, "You left your soiled underwear in
my bathroom."

Use meaningless but weighty-sounding words and phrases.
Memorize this list:

Let me put it this way
In terms of
Vis-a-vis
Per se
As it were
Qua
Ipso facto
Ergo
So to speak

You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as "Q.E.D.", "e.g.",
and "i.e." These are all short for "I speak Latin, and you don't." Here's
how to use these words and phrases. Suppose you want to say, "Peruvians
would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't have enough
money."

You never win arguments talking like that. But you WILL win if you say, "Let
me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis Peruvians qua
Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so to speak, but they
do not have enough money per se, as it were. Ergo, ipso facto, case closed.
Q.E.D."

Only a fool would challenge that statement.

Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks.
You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevant phrases to fire back at your
opponents when they make valid points. The best are:

You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples to oranges.
What are your parameters?

This last one is especially valuable. Nobody (other than engineers and
policy wonks) has the vaguest idea what "parameters" means.

Don't forget the classic: YOU'RE SO LINEAR.

Here's how to use your comebacks:

You say: As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873...
Your opponent says: Lincoln died in 1865.
You say: You're begging the question.
You say: Liberians, like most Asians...
Your opponent says: Liberia is in Africa.
You say: You're being defensive.
You say: Since the discovery of the incandescent light bulb...
Your opponent says: The light bulb is an invention.
You say: Well DUH!

Compare your opponent to Adolf Hitler.
This is your heavy artillery, for when your opponent is obviously right and
you are spectacularly wrong. Bring Hitler up subtly. Say, "That sounds
suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say," or "You certainly do
remind me of Adolf Hitler."
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