good article on SI/YHOO:
From: s1itne1 (Trial Member) Monday, Jul 27 1998 12:06AM ET
Reply # of 1768
Maybe Sly Billy Jones is just looking to make the Wall Street Journal:
The Wall Street Journal Interactive Edition's Heard on the Net column for
Friday, July 24:
When It Comes to Promoters,
Boards Say, 'Reader Beware'
By JASON ANDERS
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL INTERACTIVE EDITION
On-line discussion forums are coming under pressure from their users to
rein in the hype that fills some message boards, especially postings that
come from paid stock promoters.
Some discussion forums have responded by hiring patrols to keep an eye out
for stock promoters, who have been hired by companies to create a buzz
about their stocks, on-line and off. Other sites prohibit users from
discussing the most speculative stocks where the problem is most prevalent.
But for the most part, message boards say, it's reader beware.
"We advise people to always do their own research and not believe things
they read on the boards," says Jill McKinney, Webmaster for Silicon
Investor (www.techstocks.com), one of the most popular on-line discussion
forums. "I think our users are intelligent enough to figure out what to
believe."
Silicon Investor won't take any action against Daryn Fleming, a
message-board participant who is president of Wall Street West and whose
posts were the subject of a recent Heard on the Net column. Ms. McKinney
says Mr. Fleming's postings are the first Silicon Investor has had to deal
with where it appeared a user was paid to promote stocks.
Wall Street West issues research reports and "buy" recommendations on
companies, and promotes them on its Web site (www.wallstreetwest.com) in
exchange for compensation. Mr. Fleming promoted several of Wall Street
West's clients in Silicon Investor message boards, but didn't reveal that
his company was being paid to promote the stocks, and only occasionally
mentioned his affiliation with Wall Street West. He says he made the posts
as a private investor, and not on behalf of the companies or Wall Street West.
In a post made late last week, Mr. Fleming wrote that he expected his
Silicon Investor account would be deleted, and the messages he posted would
be removed. But Silicon Investor says being a paid stock promoter isn't
against its rules.
"Paid promoters on TV and in newspapers, magazines and radio are no better
or worse than paid promoters on Silicon Investor," says Ms. McKinney. "The
difference is paid promoters on SI can be challenged. The truth comes out
in discussion forums, making forums the best medium for the discourse of
investment knowledge and wisdom."
Mr. Fleming, who has stopped posting messages on Silicon Investor, declines
to comment.
Users of Silicon Investor and other discussion forums have long complained
that paid promoters have been flooding some message boards with hype.
"In the past year, I've noticed the hype has gotten really bad," says Colin
Cody, a message board participant who has been a member of Silicon Investor
since 1996. "You hear rumors all the time that certain people are being
paid to promote a stock. I think it's really difficult for a new user on
the boards. He doesn't know who to believe. If he jumps in too quickly and
doesn't do enough reading, he could get burned."
Silicon Investor, which hired a person full-time earlier this year to
monitor its discussions, says most of the complaints it gets from users are
related to message boards dedicated to stocks traded on the OTC Bulletin
Board. Many of these stocks are so-called microcaps, which typically have
small public floats of available shares and low share prices -- two things
that make them particularly vulnerable to someone looking to manipulate the
price of the stock. Such companies also are more likely to turn to a paid
stock promoter for exposure than are larger, more established companies.
Keeping paid promoters away from message boards is nearly impossible, say
those who run the boards, because such users never advertise the fact that
they are paid to hype stocks.
Still, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission says the laws governing
paid promoters still apply when those promoters venture into on-line
message boards and chat rooms. The SEC requires stock promoters to disclose
whether or not they are being paid, how much they received and who they
received it from.
"If someone is being paid to promote a company, the rules still apply when
they tout it on a street corner or a message board," says John Stark, the
SEC's special counsel for Internet projects. "In my opinion, every message
a promoter posts would have to include a disclaimer. It would have to be
clear to anyone reading that message that this was a paid promoter."
Many message board participants on the subscriber-based Silicon Investor
are critical of Yahoo! Finance (quote.yahoo.com), a free site where it is
easy to post messages under multiple anonymous usernames. Like other
forums, Yahoo says the high volume of messages posted each day (it declines
to release statistics) prevent it from monitoring everything that is posted.
Still, the service has taken steps to clean up its on-line chatter. The
site recently removed all message boards it had created for OTC Bulletin
Board stocks. (Message board participants are still allowed to create
boards to discuss such stocks.) Yahoo hasn't had a case yet involving a
known stock promoter, but says it has rules barring such users.
"You can't post or transmit any form of advertising or solicitation, so
being paid to promote a stock wouldn't be allowed," says Michael Riley,
producer for Yahoo Finance.
After receiving complaints from users, Yahoo yanked some advertising off
its site and changed its guidelines. The site no longer accepts advertising
from companies that receive compensation in exchange for recommending a
stock. Other popular on-line sites say they don't have specific rules about
such ads. Silicon Investor has advertisements for Stock Genie
(www.stockgenie.com) and Stellar Stocks (www.stellarstocks.com), two Web
sites that promote stocks in exchange for compensation. Raging Bull
(www.ragingbull.com), a relatively new on-line discussion forum, says it
doesn't have any rules against accepting such ads.
It's unclear just how many paid stock promoters populate message boards,
but discussion forum operators say the number is probably far lower than
users suspect. "There is a popular conspiracy theory that anyone who
disagrees with you in a message board is being paid to disagree with you.
That's absurd," says David Forrest, community coordinator for Motley Fool
(www.motleyfool.com), another popular on-line investing site.
Motley Fool is taking one of the most aggressive approaches in battling
on-line hype. Twenty full-time "community strollers" patrol Motley Fool's
message boards on America Online and the World Wide Web (the two systems
are separate), looking for hypesters and rule violators.
"There is a difference between a paid promoter and an enthusiastic share
holder," Mr. Forrest says. "There's nothing wrong with being excited about
a stock. But if you're being paid to promote a stock, you're not really
contributing anything valuable to the discussion."
Mr. Forrest says Motley Fool hasn't had a case yet where it was clear
someone was being paid to post messages about a company, and he attributes
that to the work of the monitors.
"Our strollers also play devil's advocate. If someone is posting a lot of
really positive things about a company that appear suspect, one of the
strollers will post a message and ask specific questions. We get rid of a
lot of hype that way," says Mr. Forrest. Motley Fool also features "bad
post" buttons that make it easy for users to report posts that they find
suspicious or offensive. Mr. Forrest says all reports are investigated.
Motley Fool says its patrols allow it to control content better than some
of the other popular message boards. But Motley Fool only receives about
5,000 posts a day on its two message board systems -- well under the 12,000
a day Silicon Investor receives.
Motley Fool also doesn't allow discussion of stocks traded on the OTC
Bulletin Board -- a policy that Mr. Forrest says has "saved us headaches."
"Basically where at all possible, we want to avoid any appearance of
impropriety," he says. "Still, with so many messages there's only so much
anyone can do."
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