<<and if NH is turning in its current numbers during such a downturn, you gotta imagine that when times are booming, NH will rock>> Mike, I agree that New Holland is a great long term investment at this price, but this is certainly not a business in a downturn. Times are booming now, and have been for the last three or four years. Earnings are closer to a peak than a trough, and the fear in the sector is that the peak is right now. Agco fell to 5 times earnings today. FIVE times! What you need to think about with New Holland is the level of free cash flow and the balance sheet. You know this business will make it through the trough, and is likely to stay profitable. Also, New Holland's next peak of earnings (if this is indeed the peak) will be higher than this one - this is a cyclical grower. As Mike said, any growth is just gravy. You're not even paying full value for the company's mid-cycle earnings power at this price. I figure it this way. They're earning $2.50 now, and this company will earn money in a trough. Figure 50 cents to be conservative. Average the two and you get a buck fifty of "mid cycle earnings". If you can buy a cyclical at 12 times mid cycle earnings, that's not investment. That's theft. But you may have to wait through a three year cycle to cash in. |