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To: cool who wrote (36)	8/3/1998 12:05:00 AM
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To: +Ellen (50506 ) From: +Ellen Sunday, Aug 2 1998 9:11PM ET Reply # of 50558 Part of #reply-5110398 To: Jim B (2648 ) From: gwolf Monday, Jul 6 1998 6:59PM ET Reply # of 3614 To All: anyone posting to Forthright & friends is an IDIOT........ I have sent Forthright several PM's asking him about his true intentions on this thread. The reason has been that I have been trying to get a response from him is to find out if he is sincere about his wanting to protect people or if he is working with a particular syndicate out of Canada that has contracted with American firms to lay off their shorts. I have mentioned names to him and firms and he doesn't respond, obviously because he knows that I know who he is connected with. If he was sincere about what he claims are his objectives he would have responded to me. He refuses to respond to me because he knows that he is lying to everyone on this thread and that I know what he's up to. If he responses he take the chance of just digging himself into a bigger hole with me and possibly exposing himself. What does it mean to lay off a short? Only a market maker can short a stock in the U.S. under $5. The market makers are suppose to short as a normal course of making a market. In other words when there are buyers and no sellers they are suppose to sell even if they don't have the stock ( selling short ) to keep the market liquid. Market makers are not allowed to short the market just to drive the price down, irrespective of what Janice Shell says about market makers. This syndicate contracts with U.S. market makers to short stocks they want to drive down and then settles with them at the appropriate time. In order to guarantee that the stocks go down they have their group on the internet parade themselves around as supposedly honest people who don't like to see promoters hurt people. They will bring up anything they can to cause concern among shareholders. If these people where real investors they would be asking a lot of pertinent questions and contacting the company for answers. Have you ever heard of a truly serious investor that doesn't contact a company to find out everything they can about the company. When each of you has encouraged them to call the company have you ever noticed they never do, they have no interest in the company, they are not trying to find out if the company is real or not. Have you noticed how Forthright keeps baiting all of you into his valuation model. If this man is so knowledgeable about the markets why doesn't he come up with his own model and just post it to the thread.He says he is collecting information, but everything he has asked for has already been posted to the thread at one point or another. He has all of you scared that if you participate with him that he will come up with a valuation that that will show the stock price is to high. Once he has accomplished that he has a focal point to work with to drive the stock price down. So instead you all just banter with him and take up space on this thread

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