Cory Hamasaki: 'c.s.y2k has been 6 months to a year ahead of the press and public
understanding.'
This is my experience also. I started reading specific posts on comp.software.year-2000 almost 1 year ago; along with postings on sites such as www.year2000.com.
There is a lot of CR*P on c.s.y2k; but there is also some advanced discussion on Y2k ahead of the pack as well. So it is worthwhile to read some discussions on c.s.y2k.
John
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'From:
kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net (cory hamasaki)
4:56
Subject:
Re: Some FACTS about banks and Y2K
On Wed, 5 Aug 1998 23:44:37, ronkenyon@aol.com (RonKenyon) wrote:
> Jeffrey Weiss <weissj@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >Mr Milne, the
> >burden of proof is ON YOU. We don't have to name a single compliant bank.
> >We're not the ones trying to do the convincing, YOU ARE
>
> Well actually, Jeffrey, NO YOU ARE. In conventional discourse, the adherent to
> a nonstandard position bears the greater burden of explication, if not "proof".
> In this company (c.s.y2k), the standard view is that the problem is real, of a
> serious nature, and won't go away by itself.
>
> In recent months, this is also the consensus view among educated society at
> large, and is certainly the consensus of bankers and bank regulators.
>
> The accepted presumption, absent specific and credible information to the
> contrary, with respect to any given large, software-dependent institution is
> that said institution is not ready at this point in time (1998-08-06).
I know several organizations that *expect* to be ready. They've
reported their status to WDC Y2K multiple times. These firms have been
very open; I've had off-the-record conversations with their Y2K VPs. I
know how seriously they're taking this problem. I am optimistic about
their prospects but know also how hard they've worked. ...and they're
not done yet.
On the other hand, I hear a lot of jive-talking from other firms, read
the reports of the DoD's Inspector General raking the Pentagon over the
coals... come on, we're not talking about Joe's bait shop... the stuff
about the power industry, the Telcos, trains, seafreight.
As for the banks... I have reports from the superprogrammer grapevine
about serious problems. These are rumors but I believe them.
> Cases or claims to the effect that "thus-and-such particular institution is
> ready *now*" are certainly of interest to the group, and may be subject of
> lively debate, as are interpretations of current evidence and/or projections of
> the likely course of events.
>
> But if you wish to debate the reality of the problem under discussion, you've
> arrived a year or two late ... unless you have some unusually compelling
> evidence, truly novel perspective or argument not yet aired.
c.s.y2k has been 6 months to a year ahead of the press and public
understanding.
A year ago, c.s.y2k was considering the validity and scope of the
problem in general. The concensus was, this is a large problem. done,
debated, the jury's in.
Six months ago, c.s.y2k was examining specific industries, asking how's
power doing, banking, government, water, etc. These questions have been
resolved industry by industry. No one is doing well. There is no good
news. Yes, there are a few who haven't gotten with the program but hey,
some of us think the world is flat too.
Today, the question is, when will it start and what is it. I'm guessing
December 1998-January 1999. *It* is both the first wave of large MIS
failures and the management panic... I'm not concerned about Joe
Six-pack, he's cool... 1972 Monte Carlo with 396 V-8... cool.
I'm afraid of the horn-hairs, now there's an addle-brained bunch,
fad of the day, metrics, awareness posters, clueless as a stone... but
hey, a firm handshake, a sincere smile, good hair... and they'll stab
you in the back every time. What happens when the systems break and the
best efforts of the geeks can't put humpty-dumpty together again? What
happens when management can't deny the reality any longer?
Will they realize that the joke's on them? That they wasted time that
we didn't have? What straws will a drowning executive team grasp for?
I see W.C. Fields calling on the clueless.
> Regards,
> RonKenyon, Emissary of Civility
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