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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (61982)8/7/1998 12:02:00 AM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (2) of 186894
 
McMannis - Looks like AMD's 3DNOW is in Deep Trouble!

Independent software vendors (ISVs) are telling CYRIX that Katmai New Instructions (KNI) are much better than 3DNOW.

And Cyrix may drop the 3DNOW support !

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eet.com

"Another potential consumer of execution units is SIMD
processing. Jalapeno will have to face Intel processors
equipped with the Katmai New Instructions (KNI), Intel's
second-generation version of MMX. Cyrix is in the process
of deciding whether it will remain with the 3DNow
instruction-set extensions of Advanced Micro Devices Inc.
(AMD), or move to an implementation of KNI.

"We've heard from some ISVs [independent software
vendors] that KNI is superior to 3DNow, Swearingen said.

"There's discussion on whether AMD intends to evolve
3DNow in that direction, and on whether we might go there
independently. One of the issues is that KNI may use 128-bit
registers and some other things that you can't just adapt to
with some simple pipeline changes. We are still looking into
the question."

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AMD's 3DNOW may end up being 3DHOME_ALONE

Paul

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Here's the whole article on Cyrix:

eet.com

Posted: 9:00 p.m., EDT, 8/6/98

Cyrix serves Jalapeno to burn Intel

By Ron Wilson

DALLAS - Armed with a hot CMOS process from parent
National Semiconductor Corp. and an aggressive
superscalar architecture, Cyrix Corp. is taking aim at the
high end of Intel's IA-32 processor line. The company is
planning to pop its next hot CPU core, code-named
Jalapeno, just in time to catch Intel in mid-transition from the
IA-32 to Merced.

"We are aiming Jalapeno at the 600-MHz Pentium-II
performance level," said Cyrix vice president of engineering
Mark Bluhm. "That will be much faster than any estimates we
have seen of Merced speed on IA-32 code, and it should be
competitive with Intel's IA-32 high end at the time."

According to the company, Jalapeno represents both solid
engineering developments on existing themes and some
significant departures from Cyrix's traditional way of doing
things.

In its traditional approach, Cyrix prided itself on high
instructions per clock, trying to execute most X86
instructions in a single cycle. The architects argued that this
higher efficiency would lead to better overall performance,
even if it caused circuit complexities that limited maximum
clock frequency.

The company won the battle, demonstrating benchmark
performance on its M-II processor that exceeded the
performance of higher-frequency Intel CPUs.

But at the same time, Cyrix was losing the war. "The reality
is that retail end users don't buy on performance - they buy
on clock frequency," stated Cyrix vice president for desktop
products Stan Swearingen. "The irony is that because we
had done a better job on core design, we were getting
beaten on the retail shelf."

This experience led to a new way of thinking. "Before, we
would compromise on maximum clock rate in order to get
better execution speed," Swearingen said. "Starting with
Jalapeno, we decided to put the priority on megahertz, and
not to trade them easily for higher performance."

The new approach guided the Jalapeno team through a
checklist of improvements over the current M-II core. "There
were things to do to make the core run faster," Bluhm said,
"like larger caches, more efficient pipelines and more
execution units."

The latter capability conceals some surprises that Cyrix is
saving for its paper at this year's Microprocessor Forum,
according to Bluhm. "In general, I don't think it's reasonable
to issue more than a couple or three instructions per clock in
any general-purpose instruction set - especially the X86
instruction set," Bluhm said. But it turns out that you can
definitely benefit from having more that a couple of execution
units in the core."

The apparent contradiction may stem from Jalapeno's
decision to tune for megahertz. In order to get the highest
possible clock rate, some critical paths have to be
shortened. That, in turn, makes it impossible to keep some
complex - and infrequent - operations to a single cycle.
An architect has the choice of extending the pipeline to give
the operation more cycles in which to complete, or of
permitting the operation to stall the pipeline for a cycle or
two.

If the architect takes the latter choice - and many feel that
shorter pipelines are better pipelines - then additional
execution units could in fact increase throughput. If a
floating-point operation stalled the FP pipe for a cycle, for
instance, consecutive FP instructions would stall the
processor. But adding another FP pipe - even one that
didn't support all possible FP instructions - could prevent
the dispatch stall.

Another potential consumer of execution units is SIMD
processing. Jalapeno will have to face Intel processors
equipped with the Katmai New Instructions (KNI), Intel's
second-generation version of MMX. Cyrix is in the process
of deciding whether it will remain with the 3DNow
instruction-set extensions of Advanced Micro Devices Inc.
(AMD), or move to an implementation of KNI.

"We've heard from some ISVs [independent software
vendors] that KNI is superior to 3DNow, Swearingen said.
"There's discussion on whether AMD intends to evolve
3DNow in that direction, and on whether we might go there
independently. One of the issues is that KNI may use 128-bit
registers and some other things that you can't just adapt to
with some simple pipeline changes. We are still looking into
the question."

Whatever decision Cyrix makes about execution units,
Jalapeno will clearly require massive amounts of memory
bandwidth to keep it fed. In part, this need will be met by
more and larger on-chip caches. While he would not be
specific about Jalapeno's configuration, Bluhm said that
large on-chip L2 caches, and even on-chip L3s, may be in
order as processors move beyond 500 MHz. Such cache
organizations have in the past been used in the Alpha CPU
family to good effect, even though they can increase die size
enormously.

Whatever the cache organization, there will be a need for
high main-memory speed, both in terms of bandwidth and
latency. That means a fast CPU interface to the Northbridge,
and a fast main-memory system.

Until recently, the Northbridge question presented Cyrix with
a dilemma. Clearly Socket-7 was running out of steam. But
without access to a license for Intel's Slot-1 technology, and
with the high cost of that interface, Cyrix appeared forced
into a proprietary bus - the kiss of death in the X86
business.

But Intel has thoughtfully opened a fourth alternative for the
company, according to Swearingen. "With the advent of
Socket-370, everything changes. Here is an interface that is
inexpensive and implementable. And because it uses
GTL-type levels, it can go 133 MHz or more - much faster
than Intel is pushing it. We are actively looking at that."

But the interface issue may be moot: Cyrix apparently
intends to integrate the Northbridge interface and control
circuitry into Jalapeno. That gives the architecture further
advantages. By eliminating the bus crossing between the
last cache and the DRAM controller, the architect can gain
not only reduced latency, but also the ability to do
speculative and anticipatory operations that wouldn't make
sense in a conventional partitioning.

Beyond the Northbridge, the need for speed persists. "You
have to architect a system solution, not just a CPU core,"
Swearingen said. "Jalapeno will use a Rambus memory
interface. That just makes sense for the time in which the
part is coming out - right as Rambus will be crossing over
PC-100 memory buses."

All of this activity will require competitive processes. And
here, too, the news for Cyrix is good, according to the
company. "In the past, National has lagged behind in CMOS
development," Bluhm admitted, "but they are working hard to
catch up."

"In fact, we are seeing speeds from National's CMOS-8
process in South Portland, Maine, that are right on top of
what we were seeing from IBM's CMOS-6S-2," Swearingen
said. "And we have parts in hand from a 0.18-micron
process that is in development."

Although it has been most noticeable for its aggressive
pursuit of the integrated "PC on a chip," a push that will
continue with the coming MXi chip, Cyrix fully intends to be a
competitor to Intel at the high end of the 32-bit space as well.
With its aggressive Jalapeno plans, the company hopes to
persuade the market that it can do just that.
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