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To: Gregory D. John who wrote (20064)	8/8/1998 6:01:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (2) of 39621

Greg, I agree that the issue of individual rights as opposed to the rights of society is a difficult question. In most every instance you will find me on the side of the individual. Some areas where law enforcement has gone too far with the help of the judiciary are the search and seizure statutes. A person can be searched without probable cause now where as before that was considered illegal. The idea that if you are driving down the road you automatically consent to being searched is wrong but that is the law now. Your property can be seized now if the law enforcement officials (in there minds) think that the vehicle you're driving or money you have on you etc. have been used in drug dealing. They can seize the property without pressing any charges against you and you would then have to hire a lawyer and prove that you were not involved in anything illegal and then maybe you will get your property back. We are giving up too many rights in the name of fighting crime and the government is inching closer and closer towards becoming a real full fledged tyranny. We will regret it for not trying to do something about it. The weakening of the miranda rights to me is a step back towards the days when the police could get away with beating confessions out of people just because they thought they were guilty. Anyone will confess to anything whether they did it or not if they are treated cruelly enough. The atrocities of our government at Waco and Ruby Ridge are examples of abuses of power by people with power and an aggressive mindset. These officers are just too "gung ho" and into the militaristic attitude about police work. Burn them out first then ask questions. The FBI and the BATF were not reformed after these things happened. Congress held some hearing and that was all. I am generally not pro government at all. I also could think of reasons to be careful with the death penalty. For example, the judge and prosecutor often work together to exclude evidence the defense would like to show a jury. There should be no power by the judge to exclude evidence, the jury should hear it all and decide for themselves if it is relevant. Evidence has been manufactured in labs by law enforcement agencies to convict people. The defense should not be limited by finances from getting their own labs and tests to refute this kind of evidence. It is far from a perfect system and I am not wild about the jury system, but it's still better than one judge deciding a persons fate. But juries can be made up of all sorts of prejudiced, irrational and illogical people. True objectivity is rareIMO and few are really able to be that way. I am 43 and I have not been impressed by the intelligence of the majority of people I have met. I believe SI is unusual in that the people who come here are above the norm on that issue. I would tell the judge I want a jury picked from SI, and only the ones who stay away from the pennies <ggg>. That would rule me out. cya, Bob

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