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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!!

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To: greenspirit who wrote (24340)	8/16/1998 11:30:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) of 108807

Michael, Since you invited it, here's the argument in a nutshell: In 1911, an urban-based, western-oriented political movement that most rural Chinese weren't even aware of toppled a dynasty in a spontaneous uprising and took over nominal authority. They found it impossible to extend this authority past Beijing, and the country collapsed into an anarchy of "warlords". European powers took the opportunity to complete their dismemberment of the nation, the Japanese saw themselves being closed out and invaded (way before the start of WWII). It is impossible to calculate the toll of fatalities and suffering that occurred in this period. I believe that the Chinese authorities saw what was happening in Tiananmen, saw the parallel, panicked, and did what we all know they did. Was it wrong? Absolutely. But I have no doubt that in the minds of the men who ordered it, it was necessary. I don't approve of it and I'm not trying to justify it. I am trying to understand it. History can be a shitty place. But enslaving ourselves to it is as bad as ignoring it. Steve

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