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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (3467)8/17/1998 8:38:00 PM
From: X Y Zebra  Read Replies (2) of 12810
 
"Letters to Evile" *** Part Two ****

Cont...

As to the Israeli State, all I can tell you there, is that I have great admiration for the Israeli people, they have converted a pitiful piece of dessert into a productive garden that has created the envy of its neighbors, they keep on growing in spite of the hostile environment that imbeciles like you have created.

They can not understand that the Israelis are here to stay and you may as well get along with your neighbor, they should learn the good things from them and offer and exchange the good things of their character, (if they are capable of such), in the end we are all humans there is no difference in our nature, but there may be in our thinking and philosophies.
Become a trader, exchange value for value, become proud of your ability to create and exchange, do not preach mindless hate and violence particularly with antiquated verses of scripture that has no application in today's world, do not repeat like a boring parrot stuff that few people can read, let alone comprehend, use your time wisely and if you are really interested in "loving your neighbor" then pull up your sleeves and do something practical to execute what your words say, do not simply sit there in your golden pedestal preaching these idiotic parables, thinking that words rather than deeds are going to change people and the world, wake up, start doing rather than talking about it, and change your broken record of "Zionist conspiracies", and listening to J.C., or else, open your mind and use it in more productive fashion not in your repetitive message of hate and violence.

Above all, do not pretend that everyone listens to you and believes your rubbish, I for one, I view you as a grotesque result of your own preachings and doctrines, your mere assertion that the holocaust is an exaggeration of the "Zionist controlled media" gives away your own full of hate nature and philosophy, the rest of your ideology becomes cheap propaganda of the absurd, not to mention that your repetitive reference of the babble only adds stupidity to your expressions, equal to those made by an institutionalized parrot.

You are the best example (a live one), I can come up, to show one (amongst many), why the entire religious indoctrination and babble promotional movement should be avoided, closely watched, and indeed, closely regulated.

Allowing your kind to run free, without question, we would end up with another Adolph Hitler, and I am not exaggerating, as I shall remind you that in spite of the fact that the German people have been productive individuals and certainly "no dummies", they allowed a complete madman, who was not even German himself, to lead them to one of the saddest and most destructive chapters of human kind, based on identical ideas to the ones you spout, different spin, but still, the same.

You are the product of intolerance, blind faith, ignorance by the supporters of mysticism, and indeed you are the very same evil from which, you pretend to "protect and save" others.

TAXATION of CHURCHES and RELIGIONS should be implemented, particularly when they want to impose public policy such as prayer in public education, regulation of decisions by women in regards to their own body, and dictation of sexual preferences and/or behavior by individuals. (amongst many other attempts to control people).

ALL of the above belong in the realm of INDIVIDUAL CHOICE, not collective mandate, particularly based on old scripture that not only is it written by other human beings, subject to the same errors of judgement as those reading the old and rancid material, but in addition, with far less knowledge wisdom and experience than philosophers of the different and more modern ages, by the simple fact that the human race has been collecting knowledge over the years.

It is quite striking the parallel in the fear for knowledge, alternate ideas, indeed their use of threat, violence, terror, and deceit, between your book of antiquated prose, and their most rabid charlatans of the absurd, i.e. high priests of voodoo, be this from the exotic Caribbean or South Pacific islands or the Roman Convents, Christian Cathedrals, or any other likewise snake oil salesmen, including those who wear a pathetic white bed sheet with a conehead as head dress gear, (quite approprietly I shall add). Either way, they all promote either mystic gods or evil demons with messages of love, eternal life/damnation, but all equally idiotic and irrational.

The only antidote for this disease of the intellect is education, knowledge and reason. This can only be provided by science, technology and the study of man as a rational being (as opposed to a mere sacrificial and worshiping animal.)

Your preachings of old scripture and verse in a style and language understood only by fanatics are redundant, deceitful (particularly with your spin against the Israeli people, and in spite of your claims that you "love them"), indeed, overflowing with hate.

Your claim to be treated as reasonable individual, and that people come and show you your "errors", so as for you to change your views, is as rational as the temper tantrum behavior of a two year old screaming in an attempt for him to stay awake, in spite of being completely tired, yet refusing to go to bed. You yourself should go to bed for a couple of days, rest, and wake up from the nightmare that you have been living.

From a response to a different post (not to me):

As to your implications that I have some secret aganda, you are paranoid. I am a Christians who believes strongly that Jesus Christ is the only hope of salavation for all men. Unlike the racis Zionist, I make no distinction between men; I hope for the salvation of all men regardless of race or religious background. I have hatred for no man, but I despise philosophies, religions and any other organizations who oppose Jesus Christ. That is not a secret agands but my open life--public as well as on the Internet. I have no secret agends.

For starters, I believe you need to further your education in basic Orthography, or may be you are writing in old scripture... yeah that must be it, old rabid, and incomprehensible double-speak.

If your Chucho is such an "all mighty", why does he not come out of hiding and explain all the killings that the various churches, inquisitions, rabid leaders, and other miscellaneous mad bishops have perpetrated throughout history, "in the name of god"??

Let him defend himself, or better yet why doesn't he come today with all the modern technology available and spread his message and once and for all, ends the hate, killings etc., etc..... after all, don't you think that humanity has paid enough for the incredible ill and evil deed of "biting on the fruits of the tree of knowledge" ??

Give me a break you evil moron, what about the idea that executing a criminal is against the rabid "right to life" demented bastards, claiming that the "sacrificing" of another human being does not justify such execution.... even if it is just payment for the murdering of another....

Or what about the idea that a woman can not decide what to do with her own body.....

I quote Ayn Rand, re: Abortion.

"An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to potential, only to an actual being. A child can not acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living, (or the unborn).

Abortion is a moral right ~ Which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morality, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivable have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body.

Never mind the vicious nonsense of claiming that the embryo has a "right to life" A piece of protoplasm has no rights ~ and no life in the human sense of the term. One may argue about the later stages of a pregnancy, but the essential issue concerns only the first three months, To equate a potential to an actual, is viscous; to advocate the sacrifice of the latter for the former, is unspeakable... Observe that by ascribing rights to the unborn, i.e., the nonliving, the anti-abortionists obliterate of the rights of the living: the right of young people to set the course of their own lives. The task of raising a child is a life long responsibility, which no one should undertake unwittingly or unwillingly. Procreation is not a duty: human beings are not stock-farm animals. for conscientious persons, an unwanted pregnancy is a disaster; to oppose its terminations to advocate sacrifice, not for the sake anyone's benefit, but for the sake misery because of misery, for the sake of forbidding happiness and fulfillment to living human beings.
If any among you are confused or taken by the argument that the cells of an embryo are living human cells, remember that so are all of the cells of your body, including the cells of your skin, your tonsils, or your ruptured appendix ~ and that cutting them is murder, according to the notions of that proposed law. Remember that potentiality is not the equivalent of an actuality ~ and that the human being's life begins at birth."

End of quote.

So, let me see if I understand.....

According to a good Christian that is a right to lifer....

It is correct to allow a common criminal (take the example of Karla Faye Tucker, a murderer of two), to live, in spite of her crime, simply because she claimed that she had found Jesus..... The way I see it, society did her a favor because society assisted her in meeting her beloved Jesus sooner.... you people should do the same and go meet your beloved, just as the members of Heaven's Gate did, I bet you they are happy behind the comet now..... weeeeeeehuuuuuu !!!!

Yet you are ready to sacrifice a young woman that wants to terminate an unwanted embryo, therefore, creating a sacrifice of her own life, and the embryo as well, since it is unwanted....

Great Rationale !!! Keep the killer alive, (forget her victims), and sacrifice one more live, and in the process, creating an unwanted being, that who knows what the result will be as such baby grows up unloved.....

Gold medal for stupidity, imbecility, and self immolation....

No thanks take your preachings elsewhere, better yet, go meet your "creator", I am sure you will be happier, without having to deal with us infidels.
You said your piece, in your post to me and others here in the cathedral of Thread Morons, I have said mine, now go on fly a kite do not bug me any more, I will not pay more attention to your rantings... go boy! shoo, shoo.

Finally why don't you go and read some URL's they are quite extraordinary in their own rights I believe....

Take a peek:

(With some excerpts)

reasonworks.com

".....For starters, one has to wonder why a devout Baptist couple like the McCaugheys would be dabbling in this fertility voodoo in the first place. Surely their god was capable of effecting a miraculous conception in Bobbi's womb, just as he had done with Sarah, the 90 year-old wife of Abraham, and with Mary, the mother of Jesus. Seems to me that if the McCaugheys truly had faith in their god, they would have had tried conceiving the old fashion way -- with a miracle! Going to fertility doctors is hardly an act of faith. Quite the contrary, it seems to me like they had given up on their god......"

reasonworks.com

"......Just who will be in heaven and hell anyhow? Read the hearsay of Mark (no one knows who he was) as he claims to quote Jesus: "...he that believeth not shall be eternally damned." Oh great. In heaven we have the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer who dined on his kill, but in the end, repented and was reborn. In hell we find disbelievers like Anne Frank, a Jew killed by Christians, and Dr. Albert Schweitzer who made a living of giving, who found, after years of study, that Jesus was a man, or a myth. He couldn't be bribed by heaven, or extorted by hell. He would not give up his reason, his humanness, for any god, so long as he lived. I picture our first six presidents, along with Taft, another non-Christian, sitting around the steam rooms of hell as confounded by the scheme of salvation in the "afterlife" as they were as mortals.

So what's our agenda? How about a constitutional republic "for the people, by the people, and of the people." How about government neutrality toward all religion, protecting freedom of, and freedom from, religion? How about the religion of freedom?......."

reasonworks.com

"........Which brings us back to the question at hand: Is Princess Diana, even at this very moment, burning and suffering in Hell? Inquiring minds want to know! At the risk of coming across like some kind of philosophical paparazzi, I'd like to zoom in on a few key areas of the princess' life and see if we can determine whether Diana might indeed be eternally southbound.

Consider the following:

Some Of Diana's Closest Friends Had Homosexual Backgrounds. There was Elton John, Gianni Versaci, and of course all those disgusting AIDS people. According to the Bible, homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of god, and people who engage in homosexual sex are to be put to death (see Leviticus 20:13). Diana shamelessly and publicly befriended these abominable people - these capital criminals! Hardly the kind of behavior we would expect to see from a true born-again Christian.

Diana Was An Admitted Adulteress. In her 1995 BBC interview, Diana revealed that she had had an adulterous affair with one Capt. James Hewitt. According to the Bible (see Leviticus 20:10) the crime of adultery carries with it the penalty of death. Clearly, Diana was guilty of committing a capital crime, and in doing so she joins the ranks of the criminally condemned - i.e., the Tim McVeighs and Ted Bundys of the of the world. Consider too that had Diana confessed her crime back in the enlightened days of Moses, she would have been dragged outside the Israelite camp and had her brains bashed in with rocks. Perhaps the fatal car accident in that Paris tunnel was god's way of settling the score.

Dodi Al Fayed. And how about that new boyfriend of hers? The man's a Muslim for god's sake! This guy, by definition, is going to hell. What was she thinking! Surely, no self-respecting, heaven-bound Christian woman would dare shack up with an infidel like this Dodi character.

So Diana's toast -- right? Well, maybe . maybe not. Let's not forget that nobody's perfect. Besides, the Bible tells that Jesus came into the world to save sinners. Isn't there some greater, more convincing evidence supporting Diana's eternal doom? ........"

And then your favorite: (Given the fact that you claim to have a Jewish wife)..... I hope you like this one.... (ha, ha, ha, ha, I can hardly contain my laughter.... sorry...)

reasonworks.com

First the background:

".......It's that time of year again. Time for families to come together and celebrate the joy of the season. For an increasing number of families, however, the holiday cheer is often overshadowed by feelings of tension and confusion. Dad's a Christian, but Mom's Jewish. Hanukkah begins on the 24th, Christmas on the 25th. Do we do the Christmas tree, or the menorah . or both? What are parents to do? What are kids to believe? ........"

The Jewish point of view.....

Let's start with the Jewish point of view. The following passage was spoken by Moses:

" If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods", do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the Lord you God ." (Deuteronomy 13: 6, NIV)

Now there's a fresh new approach to resolving conflict in interfaith marriage ... kill your spouse! Has your wife been pushing Jesus on the kids? Just bash her brains in with rocks. That'll shut her up!

Let's not kid ourselves. Christianity, by definition, looks upon Jesus as being either god or the son of god. Judaism does not. Clearly, from the Jewish point of view, those who promote Christianity are promoting a false god, an "other" god, and in doing so they are committing a crime worthy of violent death.

Absurd? You bet it's absurd, but it also happens to be very biblical and very much at core of Jewish theology. Vintage Jehovah, really.

And now, the Christian point of view

"......To get a feel for the Christian point of view, let's see what Jesus had to say on the subject. The following is from the gospel of Mark:

"Whosoever believes and is baptized is saved, but whosoever does not believe will be condemned." (Mark 16:16, NIV)

And this from the apostle Paul:

"He [god] will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting destruction." (2 Thes. 1: 8-9, NIV)

These guys don't beat around the bush; neither should we. Judaism, by definition, does not honor Jesus as either god or the son of god. Accordingly, within the theological framework of New Testament Christianity, anyone who embraces Judaism will be condemned to burn forever in hell. Absurd? You bet it is. In fact, the Jewish point of view seems almost reasonable by comparison. ........"

apocalypse.berkshire.net

The Bible A Godly Book ??

".........You see, God could have put both of the trees in front of Adam and told him to choose one tree or the other. (If he had chosen the Tree of Life he would have lived forever. The other tree brought death.) But if he had done that, Adam would have made an informed decision right there on the spot, and that wouldn't have been any fun at all. So God only told him about the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. You can read it in Genesis 2:16-17:

16 And Jehovah God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

Now, you and I knew exactly what was going to happen as soon as we read that verse. Didn't we? My mother read this story to me when I was a little boy, and as soon as she read that verse I knew that Adam and Eve were going to eat the forbidden fruit.

Anyway, after God tells Adam not to eat the forbidden fruit he tries to find a mate for him from among the animals. (Not exactly one of God's brightest ideas.) This doesn't work out so well, so God does something really drastic. He creates woman! He brings her to Adam, and now it isn't a garden anymore. It's paradise! (Genesis 2:18-24) ............."

And now.....

Go and get lost !! Do not bother me!

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