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MEETING MINUTES
November 15, 1996 - Dallas, Texa
Approval of Agenda
The Chair presented a proposed agenda which differed from the one sent out in advance by only the addition under New
Business of "ADSL Ad Hoc Group Formation." Some members objected to this addition. The Chair then explained that
the item was added only to indicate his desire that if anyone wanted to propose the establishment of an Ad Hoc Group
that it should be done under New Business rather than elsewhere during the meeting. There was a suggestion from the
floor to add "If needed" to the item, but when the objections persisted, the Chair indicated that items like this were
appropriately addressed under New Business whether specifically listed or not and then removed the item shown under
New Business and asked if there was any objection to adopting the proposed agenda that had been sent out in advance;
there was no objection. The approved agenda is shown in Attachment 3.
8.4.2 ADSL - ANSI T1.413
At the interim meeting the Working Group considered 26 ADSL contributions. Much of the discussion addressed
members support and opposition to a proposal to develop an alternate ADSL standard. The Working Group did not
reach consensus to support the proposal. Text clarifying the use of the ADSL embedded operations channel was placed
on the Issue 2 ADSL Living List as provisionally agreed. Due to lack of time, 14 contributions were deferred to the
meeting this week.
This week, the Working Group considered 49 ADSL contributions. The Working Group agreed to hold drafting group
meetings to address the PMD-TC restructuring of the T1.413 standard and to address drafting of text not related to the
POTS splitter. The following items were provisionally agreed for the Issue 2 T1.413 document: 1) reduction of overhead
bits, 2) the self-crosstalk model, 3) revised wording for noise and distortion specifications, and 4) channels used for
ATM. The Working Group agreed to new text regarding ADSL fine gain adjustment for the Issue 2 T1.413 document.
The Working Group agreed to address ATM-only and STM-only ADSL modes as a high priority, and hybrid mode
operation as a lower priority.
The T1E1.4 Chair had presented its recommendation for the formation of an Alternative ADSL Ad Hoc Group to
address matters related to the proposals for the development of alternative ADSL specification(s). Support for, and
objections to the proposal were expressed by the participants. In an effort to gain agreement, modifications to the
proposal were suggested: 1) a charter more focused on CAP/QAM RADSL, 2) limitation of work to development of a
draft Technical Report, and 3) a delay in the start of the Ad Hoc Group. The Working Group was unable to reach a
consensus to support the original or amended proposals.
13.
The Chair requested assistance to better understand the issues involved. Having received conflicting advice, the Chair
decided to ask the members to vote - using their voting cards - on whether or not action on establishing an Ad Hoc
Group should be allowed at this meeting. The Chair announced that the members had voted in favor of allowing action to
be taken and that debate on the motion should now continue.
Ms. Sallee asked that the Meeting Minutes reflect that Motorola objects to any action to establish an Ad Hoc Group
being taken at this meeting because it was not on the agenda, and that Motorola considers it a violation of T1 procedures
and will appeal. In addition, Motorola considers it a violation of due process in that it prohibits member companies from
being able to make an informed decision based on proper consultation at home.
The main arguments made against the motion centered about the fact that there already exists an American National
Standard (ANSI T1.413-1995) that has standardized a line code (Discrete Multitone) for providing ADSL and
consequently a second line code was not needed nor should be allowed. It was also pointed out the same proposal had
been discussed in T1E1.4 and that consensus to establish the Ad Hoc Group could not be achieved. The main arguments
made for the motion centered about industry desires for a second line code and that T1E1 should support rather than
thwart allowing user choice.
After considerable discussion on the main motion, the Chair once again drew the meetings attention to the motion that was
displayed on the screen and suggested that due to the sensitive nature of this issue that the vote be taken by ballot. The
Chair asked if there was any objection to proceeding in this fashion. There was no objection
For the benefit of the Tellers, Ralph Jensen announced that during the debate on the motion, that because he needed to
leave, Henri Suyderhoud, OKI America, provided a letter authorizing Fuling Liu to vote for OKI America.
The Chair instructed the members to cast their votes by marking their blue ballots "Yes," "No," or "Abstain." After
allowing time for the ballots to be completed and collected, the Chair announced a 10-minute recess.
Upon resumption of business, Dick Bobilin, the Head Teller, reported that the Tellers had collected 40 ballots of which 6
were abstentions.
Number of votes cast 34
Needed for adoption 18
YES 20
NO 13
Illegal votes 1
The Chair reread the tellers report and declared that the motion was approved.
The Chair proposed that Marlis Humphrey be the Convenor of the Ad Hoc Group and asked if there was any objection
to this proposal. There was no objection. The Chair announced that Ms. Humphrey would be the Convenor.
Curtis Brownmiller (MCI) proposed that an interim meeting of the Ad Hoc Group be approved. The Chair asked if there
was any objection to this proposal. There was no objection. The Chair announced that an interim meeting had been
approved and reminded the Convenor of the requirements for giving notice of the meeting.
There was discussion regarding the coordination between the Ad Hoc Group and T1E1.4. It was concluded that T1E1
itself would need to ensure that coordination was carried out.
There was discussion about under which Project Authorization the work of the Ad Hoc Group would take place. The
Chair stated that he would investigate this aspect.
As noted in 13, an interim meeting of the T1E1 RADSL CAP/QAM Ad Hoc Group was approved; details will be
forthcoming.
The next meetings of T1E1 and its Working Groups will be held February 3-7, 1997; NetSpeed has offered to host the
meeting and it will most likely be held in Austin, Texas. The second meeting of 1997 will be held May 12-16; Paradyne
will be the host. The third meeting will be September 8-12; and the fourth December 8-12. |
