Lucent/Stratus/Ascend/Mory/IBD interview.
Ascend Remains Network Player, But How Long?
Date: 9/9/98 Author: Michele Hostetler
Ascend Communications Inc. isn't giving up any ground just because the big boys on the block want its lucrative market.
Cisco Systems Inc., Lucent Technologies Inc. and Northern Telecom Ltd. are all pushing to sell more gear to network service providers, including Internet service providers.
But the much smaller Ascend long has held the dominant spot in high-end equipment for wide-area networks.
And Ascend is willing to mix it up. It's adding voice technology to its data gear, again challenging the larger players.
The Alameda, Calif.-based company last month bought Stratus Computer Inc. for $822 million in stock. Stratus has a signaling technology called SS7. It lets telecom carriers move data on voice networks.
Ascend Chief Executive Mory Ejabat recently spoke with IBD about being a midsize fish in a tough sea.
IBD:
How will Stratus help Ascend compete?
Ejabat:
The whole communications infrastructure is evolving. We see data, voice and video being transported on the same network. To do that, you have to migrate the voice network to the data network. There's a brain of a system that's tied in the voice system, and not to the data networks. That's the SS7 network. (With Stratus), we're migrating SS7 technology into the data network.
IBD:
How will SS7 affect the networks being built by Qwest Communications, Williams Cos. and Frontier Corp.?
Ejabat:
First, you have to realize that if you transport voice over a data network, operating costs would be less. On the other hand, these new carriers building these massive data networks have lots of bandwidth, so they can move voice through that very easily and inexpensively. They have to take advantage of existing features that once existed only in the voice network, like so-called number portability, 1-800 numbers and others. The SS7 will allow them to provide that sort of functionality over the data network.
IBD:
How does Stratus help Ascend compete against Cisco?
Ejabat:
I don't believe we are going to be competing against Cisco as much as it's going to be the other way around, because Cisco does not have the technology. At one point, we decided to focus on the carrier market, not the enterprise market. Cisco is strong in the enterprise market. The technology and product that we have (for the carrier market) is several years ahead of Cisco. Stratus will expand our lead over Cisco.
IBD:
Nortel, which just bought Bay Networks Inc., is taking aim at the network service provider market. How could that merger affect Ascend?
Ejabat:
We never saw Bay as a main competitor to Ascend because Bay has never been as strong in the carrier market. The addition of Bay to Nortel will not expand the carrier market for Nortel. It's the enterprise market. That will not have as much effect on our business as it will have an effect on Cisco.
IBD:
Will more big mergers follow?
Ejabat:
I believe so. There is not going to be data and telecom manufacturers anymore in separate areas. There's going to be communications suppliers that provide data, voice and video. We will get more into the voice area, and companies like Nortel and Lucent will get more into the data area. One thing that is very obvious is that Nortel and Lucent are trying to aim at Cisco, and Cisco is trying to aim at those two.
IBD:
Do you think the Nortel-Bay merger will work?
Ejabat:
I don't know. Unless you have done it before and have experience, it's going to be very tough to do. We gained lots of experience with the Cascade acquisition (last year). For us, it's much easier to acquire companies because we have the road map. But I don't believe these guys have that (road map) yet.
IBD:
Stratus is Ascend's first voice purchase. What other areas are you studying?
Ejabat:
We are going to expand what we have to make our (computer network) ATM (asynchronous transfer mode) switches more voice capable. We want to make our remote- access product more voice capable, so we're going to add voice technology to our existing product line.
IBD:
Are you looking at possible acquisitions?
Ejabat:
There's no company that we're looking at, at this point. We have our voice-over-IP (Internet protocol) technologies and we are going to expand on that. We are always looking at how we can increase our technology lead. If we find a company that can provide that type of lead, we'll definitely look at acquiring them. But right now we're not looking at any.
IBD:
Analysts say Ascend is a prime acquisition target for Lucent. Your response?
Ejabat:
I cannot speculate on that. But what we have is a technology that is very strong, that would make us attractive to any telecom provider. Lucent is one of them. But I think we have a great opportunity to build a strong company.
IBD:
Is selling the company on Ascend's road map?
Ejabat:
Our plan is to stay independent. But at the end of the day, we have shareholders and board members, and it depends on what comes through.
IBD:
Has Lucent approached Ascend?
Ejabat:
No, we haven't been approached.
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