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To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (940)9/9/1998 8:19:00 PM
From: Raymond James Norris  Read Replies (2) of 1542
 
I am trying to tell people about the one true God Almighty! I am trying to show the way to heaven.

So am I.

And all you keep doing here, and on other threads I see, is trying to stop people from getting there.

That's kinda naive, wouldn't you say? Who said "my way" is wrong or "your way" is right? You may definitely believe that but then comes the subject of proving it.

If you have a right to tell people about God Almighty and "show them" the way to heaven (which in my opinion sounds like an arrogant way to look at things), then I have the same right to tell people about God Almighty and not show them, but invite them to the Straight Path and pray that God shows them that path. Only God alone can do that.....

The Qur'an is a plea and a warning. It says explicitly that "There is No Compulsion in Religion." I am not here to force anyone to do anything. I cannot show anyone anything. Only God can show people. Only God can life the veil from one's heart. Only God can allow someone to seek the truth. There is not a thing that occurs in this world but by the Will of God. No matter what. And everything has its purpose.

You never introduce your beliefs!

Sorry? Perhaps you're confusing me with someone else. On Day 1, I laid down the message and explained exactly what I believed (and I never got a chance to explain why I believe it). If you ask, I will most certainly reply. You can't possibly accuse me of being guilty of not answering questions on your mind.

Many others, including myself, have tried to stop you,

Oh I see....only Christians can preach religion?

Raymond, tell us, what are your beliefs? Let examine your Quoran! Let's see how much scrutiny it holds up too.

Well I wish you luck because its held up to 1400 years of the greatest scrutiny from the greatest minds. And the Catholic Encyclopedia is one of the only sources to be honest in their findings (under the title of the Qur'an):

"Many people have suggested on the origin of this book (the Qur'an), but today, no sensible person believes any of these theories. This leaves the Christian in some difficulty."

Stop knocking God's inerrant word and let's take a look at your Muslim beliefs, Muhammed and the Holy Quoran under a microscope!

LOL.......Oh I see.....so when you can't defend the Bible, let's attack the Qur'an??

Remember Steve, it was you who posed more than a dozen questions to me about Islam and it was I that answered each one. And it was I that asked for a reply on 3 questions of mind (errors in the Bible) and it was you who never answered them. If you'd like your memory refreshed, please just ask....

As for defending the Qur'an, I don't need to. It defends itself. It names itself "The Clear Argument" and claims to have a response to any question that someone might pose about its origin. If you'd like to ignore the Bible's inconsistencies and focus on the topic of the Miracles of the Qur'an, that is more than fine. But you and I will always know the weakness of your position on that subject.

What about your position on the Jews? Up for the challenge.....

Challenge? Is this now a game?

In Islam we believe the Jews are our cousins. The Qur'an refers to the Jews with love and kindness and calls them (as well as Christians) "The People of the Book." Moses is on the 7th level of Heaven and among those closest to God Almighty.

But stop knocking the bible........

Oh PLEASE! I never have "knocked the Bible." I only pointed out 2 verses that disagree with each other. Is that considered "knocking the Bible?" I also showed historical inaccuracies and anachronisms in the Bible. Is that "knocking the Bible?" I demonstrated the additions to the Bible in major beliefs (such as John 9:6, the Marcan Appendix, etc.). Is that considered "knocking the Bible." Perhaps you mean to say, "Questioning the Bible." God forbid.

Peace be Unto You,
Norris
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