Hi Berney; <G> The big caps have the edge in as much as indexers have to buy more of them when things go up, and when things go down they sell more, BUT the other FUNDs don't, they get worried in down turns and dump the smaller caps first as they have learned over time it's harder to get out of small caps. Big melt downs can come if to many small caps get over bought. Value line didn't exactly say it that way, but anyone that really looks at value line will see that over the years all down turns hurt the smaller caps the most. ------------------------- I see you like trading INTC, I saw a video of an INTC option floor trader, it was all he did. If one has a longer window I can't see how they can get hurt trading INTC, some people will say this is nut's. But with the high premium on INTC puts, why can't you buy the stock on any dip, then short it against the box, ( the broker can't tell you he don't have the shares, and can't buy you in ) at that point you write puts just out of the money. Like right now I can get 5-1/2 for Jan 80 Puts, if they put it that closes my short and me I'm in at 74-1/2. Takes over a 10% drop to hurt me even a little bit. But at that point I can short her again & write more puts to where crap I could follow her right on down shorting and writing puts. The risk is not much, but when she starts up, I get the put money, hey she could go flat and I could likely make 24% a year or more writing puts. The whole time I'm just about ( zero invested ). I haven't tried this yet, but have been rolling it around in my mind. Heck if she goes up so what my rear is covered she can go to high heaven and not hurt me except for commission cost to trade out of her, I still keep the premium and it's just about free. Just thinking out loud, I know I've not covered all the angles yet ------------- Case 1 she goes up Say I buy at 83..( a bit rich right now ) but I go for it anyway and short her ASAP likely getting 82-3/4 anyway..I'm out a 1/4 point , sell the 80 puts for 5-1/2. she goes to 90 by Jan I keep the put money, close my short , and sell the stock OR ARB out so to speak, what the heck has it cost me yet my net would likely be $5 or better, less the interest I didn't get on that part of my Money Market funds were she was above 82-3/4 ( that's maybe another 1/2 at most ) so cut the net to 4-1/2 or even $4..what's wrong with that for a 1/4 point down payment ? ------------------------- Case 2 she drops to 75. I'm short at 82-3/4 ..she is put to me at 80, ( 2-3/4 ) then I have the 5-1/2 premium = 8-1/4..I paid 83, minus the 8-1/4 I'm at 75 & about even. But at this point if the put closed my short, why can't I short again and sell another set of puts, if I do that chances are she would have to hit the 60s to hurt me. With a little foot work and some reserve capital, I can likely front run any down turn buying more, shorting and selling puts , it takes a 10% drop in any one day to block me from saying ahead of her on a down turn. How often is INTC going to lose 10% in one day ? And if she does I can likely count on a bounce, best time in the world to double up, even then I have very little invested. As I'm always just as short as I am long, all I'm fighting for is the put premiums. Which in time I think I can wind up on the winning side. Heck I could start it off without buying and shorting, and just sell puts and then short and sell more puts if she comes to me. So now I'm not out anything if she hits, 80 gets put to me, I still have the 5-1/2..she really has to hit 74-1/2 to nip me, & why can't I short my own stock & sell more puts from that point ? Seems to me on any blue chip stock if you write puts you have an edge, and always a fresh crop of get rich fast newbies who think that buying put's they are going to get to you. So what if they do once or twice, sooner or later they will give it back. ---------------------------- Well so much for thinking out loud, don't anyone try this without checking out more angles from someone smarter than me. I used INTC as an example just for the sake of having one, there could be others that have more premium built it. I also think you want to find one that don't have any history of GAPPING down any 10% , on the open, but still has enough premium to give you that much of a window to front run her on the down side. All that aside I'm more tempted to play NB right now 4-1/8 premium at 50..have to drop to 44-7/8 to nip me. Now at 55, so that would take another 18% drop to cost me anything, I think I could stay in front of her easy enough. Jim Ps wxp.atms.purdue.edu got one eye on George, date and time is in upper right, subtract 5hrs for your location. |