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Strategies & Market Trends : Momentum Daytrading - Tricks of the Trade

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To: Ken Wolff who wrote (1599)10/12/1998 5:06:00 PM
From: Ken Wolff   of 2120
 
Continued......

13:26] <KenWolff> 10:28:01 1/8 of a point is not really worth the early
sweating is it???
[13:26] <whaleman> I took your BAANF short at 14 and you were in class. I
chose to bail at 3/4 on the first sign of strenght . Now look
[13:26] <KenWolff> 10:28:09 Nor 1/4 ...
[13:27] <KenWolff> 10:28:19 Unless you are averaging 2K share per trade..
[13:27] <whaleman> About 1/2 that
[13:27] <whaleman> on cheap stocks
[13:27] <KenWolff> 10:29:10 I understand... You really have to assess the
potential in the trade... it takes experience and a careful tracking of how
often I am correct..
[13:28] <KenWolff> 10:29:46 If you or I feel a trade is worth for example
on RNWK I said 36 1/2 .. then look to exit conservatively near 36 5/8 or 3/4
[13:28] <KenWolff> 10:30:08 I generally target 1/2 pt... or I do not do
the trade..
[13:29] <whaleman> I see
[13:29] <KenWolff> 10:30:45 I am more interested in doing 3 trades at 1/2
pt each ... than 10 trades at 1/8 pt...
[13:29] <KenWolff> 10:31:04 and so it is my idea to increase shares...
[13:30] <whaleman> But do you bail if you are up 3/4, buyers step in and
then you find yourself up a half?
[13:30] <KenWolff> 10:31:32 If I did not wish to do that... I would
execute 500 shares but I would enter at least 6 trades per day.... not
considering the shorting..
[13:30] <kloc> rnwk is 34 1/2 now ken
[13:30] <whaleman> It is just experience , isn't it
[13:31] <KenWolff> 10:32:29 No whaleman.. I usually do not wait for the
crowd to exit before me... the game is to take the 3/4 pt...
[13:31] <KenWolff> 10:32:58 but sometimes I will tell you to wait if you
missed the sell... cause they will go back up to the exit again..
[13:31] <whaleman> So the game is to spot the selling before the bid drops.
[13:31] <KenWolff> 10:33:02 yes ...
[13:32] <KenWolff> 10:33:15 the game is to spot, potential target... and
exit short..
[13:32] <KenWolff> 10:33:45 I am usually here to help you if you ask..
[13:32] <KenWolff> 10:34:02 If I miss your question (because I am scanning
many trades) keep asking..
[13:33] <whaleman> The odds of a 2-3 pointer are small then, given your
lower target.
[13:33] <KenWolff> 10:34:54 I feel you are fortunate to have an unbiased
unemotional experienced trader to help you with targets and keep you in the
trades .....
[13:33] <KenWolff> 10:34:59 take advantage of that..
[13:34] <whaleman> thanks ken
[13:34] <KenWolff> 10:35:31 anyone who is in their own trades would not
care about you very much...
[13:34] <KenWolff> 10:35:37 You would hear the following:
[13:34] <KenWolff> 10:35:49 "TAKE CARE OF THE DAMN TRADE YOURSELF!!"
[13:35] <KenWolff> 10:36:08 LOL..
[13:35] <KenWolff> 10:36:20 OK... lets go back to trading...
[13:35] <KenWolff> 10:36:24 thank you...
[13:35] <badger> great class as always
[13:35] <jpc> thanks ken
[13:36] <_desperado> thank you
past trade reports are located at mtrader.com
** Please type /me BUY XYZ in the #MTRADER IRC room to register trades

9:18: Thomas out Dell @ 55 9/16 + 3 1/16
9:24: melhop out ENCD at 2 11/16 +5/16
9:24: Ray out encd +11/32 on 2k
9:24: madison out ENCD +5/16
9:27: saber out encd 5/8 +1/2 friday hold
9:29: hiflyer out ECND 5/8 +1/4
9:30: phi1l sells IMCL 7 11/16 +5 /16
9:31: Magic sells ENCD + 1/4
9:31: Jefe out ENCD 2 9/16 +3/16
9:31: Janine out ENCD + 1/2
9:32: Janine short CUBE 15 5/8
9:33: Magic out AMMB 5 1/32 +1 1/32 woooohooooooo
9:35: Coyoti short RNWK 33 7/16
9:35: SandyB short NVLS @ 1/2
9:35: jpc short seek 21
9:36: Janine buy ICIX 21 1/4
9:38: phi1l buy RYC @23
9:38: tedg +1/8 BAANF
9:40: columbus shorts DELL @ 56 7/8
9:41: StockZone in BAANF 12 1/4
9:42: Quest in DELL 56 3/8
9:42: StockZone sold BAANF 12 7/16 +1/8
9:43: LDB cover file 1/8 +3/4
9:43: badger in out BAAN 1/4; 7/16 late posts
9:44: specyalatr late hungover post short SEEK 7/8
9:45: _alex98 shorts xcit 34 3/8
9:45: columbus covers DELL @ 56 1/4 56 3/8
9:47: Janine out PSFT +1
9:49: meany out ENCD + 1/4, late post
9:50: specyalatr covers SEEK flat
9:51: rwencil short FORE 10 11/16
9:52: TradRgirl buys SUNW @ 45
9:53: okeydoke in pamm 1 1/8
9:53: Quest out DELL @ 56 5/8 + 1/4
9:55: _jday hold or sell mspg?
9:56: columbus looking to short DELL
9:56: CTR-one in PAMM 1 1/8
9:57: columbus shorts DELL @ 57
9:59: columbus covers 56 @ 13/16 and 56 7/8 DELL
10:00 CTR-one in RNTK 1 1/16
10:00 columbus buys DELL @ 57
10:00 captn buys DELL paper 57 3/8
10:02 badger shorts BAANG 13 3/16
10:03 columbus sells DELL @ 57 1/4
10:03 columbus shorts DELL @ 57 5/16
10:03 captn sells DELL paper 57 1/8
10:04 _jday in ntrx
10:06 melhop covers RNWK +1/16
10:08 badger covers BAANF 1/4 -1/16 too strong; will look to reenter
10:08 TradRgirl sells ENCD for +9/16
10:09 captn buys NVLS paper 26 1/4
10:10 captn buys BAANF paper 13 5/8
10:12 Duncan3 out BAANF +2 (paper)
10:12 rwencil cover FORE 10 3/8 +5/16
10:13 choche short dell@57 13/16
10:13 choche short dell @ 56/13/16
10:14 learner in LCOS 28 5/8
10:15 captn sells BAANF paper 13 1/8
10:16 columbus covers DELL @ 56 3/4
10:16 columbus buys DELl @ 56 13/16
10:16 TradRgirl sells SUNW +7/16
10:18 columbus sells DELL @ 56 15/16
10:18 captn buys BAANF paper 13 1/8
10:18 jlg yahoo scalped a 1/16 dell
10:18 _jday NTRX climbing nicely. Good call Simon
10:18 halster out LCOS @ 29 + 4 9/16 from Thursday/Friday. 1K shares. Best trade ever.
10:19 learner out LCOS 29 1/8 +1/2
10:20 eal in BAANF 12 15/16
10:24 _poolstud in MENT 7 55/64
10:30 eal in FP 4 3/8
10:31 jpc cover seek 20 1/8 - 1/8
10:34 captn sells BAANF paper 12 INDU 8067 !!!!!
10:37 captn sells BANF PAPER 12 15/16
10:38 phi1l buy PZZA 31 1/2 --- late post ( I forgot)
10:38 _alex98 shorts xcit 34 5/8
10:41 Janine short VRTS 38 15/16
10:42 Robbie in pamm 1 1/8
10:42 kinch out CSCO 3 3/8 sorry for late post
10:43 RedSky coverd AMMB -1/4
10:44 TR8R out ammb 3/16 +5/8
10:46 twi out ENCD at 13/16 for +1/2
10:46 dbcooper sells LCOS +3/4
10:46 Janine short NVLS 27 1/16
10:47 learner in FILE 7 1/8
10:48 eal Out BAANF + 1/2 Thanks WOOGIE!!!!
10:49 hiflyer out BAANF +7/16 Thanks Ken :)
10:52 badger in AFCI 5 7/8
10:52 eal out FP + 1/4 in 5 min
10:55 phi1l sells RYC 23 1/4 + 1/4 (stopped out)
11:01 badger out AFCI 7/8 flat
11:01 ebey shorts NVLS @ 28
11:05 _jday Out NTRX @1 7/8 +5/16, thanks for news Nesi
11:07 DCmetro out GDYS 9 15/16 +1 1/16
11:08 _poolstud out ment @ 7 7/8 .....+1/64 and very happy about it!
11:11 blaster short SEEK 21 7/16
11:15 eal back in BAANF 13 1/16
11:16 meany in strl at 19 1/16
11:18 thewoman buys BAANF 12 15/16
11:20 Janine short more NVLS 28 3/4
11:20 ebey covered NVLS, 28 1/2, -1/2! :(
11:22 blaster covered SEEK 21 1/2 - 1/16
11:25 thewoman sells BAANF + 1/8
11:26 RedSky short NVSL @ 3/16
11:30 jpc short seek 21 5/8
11:33 RedSky covered NVSL -1/16
11:35 larisa short RNWK 36 (stop 36 1/4)
11:36 blaster short SEEK again 21 1/2
11:37 larisa covers RNWK 36 1/2 (-1/2)
11:44 larisa short RNWK 37 1/4 (stop 37 1/2) smaller shares
11:44 LEVEL7 shorts RNWK 1/8
11:48 larisa covers RNWK 36 7/16 +13/16
11:48 jpc cover seek 21 1/2 + 1/8
11:51 LEVEL7 covers rnwk +5/8
11:53 eal out BAANF another 3/16 Thanks WOOGIE
11:54 Riverdog My heart... my heart... !!##*&
12:00 blaster covers SEEK 21 9/16 -1/16
12:00 Janine out ICIX at 22 +1
12:01 thewoman buys BAANF 13 3/8
12:05 Riverdog out AMMB + 1/4 500 shares Yahoo..
12:09 thewoman sells BAANF + 5/16
12:16 blaster short BAANF 14 on paper (not borrowable)
12:20 melhop shorts FORE 11 1/4
12:21 melhop covers FORE +1/8 thanks gabeo
12:22 larisa buys RNWK 35 1/8 (stop 35)
12:25 blaster covers BAANF 13 7/8 +1/8 paper
12:25 larisa sells RNWK 35 7/8 (+3/4)
12:30 RedSky out MSPG +9/16
12:49 phi1l sells week old FD investment @ 38 1/4 + 3 1/8 ( blowing the party whistle, & throwing fiesta sprinkles)
13:07 madison in CEGE 3 1/8
13:14 madison out CEGE -1/16
13:15 thewoman buys BAANF 13 1/2
13:27 RedSky covered AMMB for +3/16
13:31 Baou out CEGE -3/32
13:42 meany out STRL 19 1/4 + 3/16, tired of waitig
13:53 thewoman buys BAANF 12 15/16
13:55 specyalatr shorts DELL 5/8
13:58 RedSky covered FORE for +7/16
14:05 jpc buy seek 21 1/8
14:16 larisa covers YHOO 114 1/4 +1/2 late confirms
14:23 specyalatr falls asleep
14:28 RedSky covered NVSL for -3/16
14:31 jpc out seek 21 2/16 + 1/16
14:32 okeydoke in IMCC 1 5/8
14:33 TradRgirl buys SUNW @ 45 again
14:38 larisa feels she need her dictionary :)
14:43 larisa would never call KEN a Liar:):)
14:49 melhop in out YHOO covered +3/16
14:54 TR8R watching ompt for breakout if we rally
15:00 eal in FILE 6 9/16 per WOOGIE
15:00 blaster in FILE 6 9/16
15:00 meany in partial fill at 6 17/32 FILE
15:01 thewoman buys FILE 6 9/16
15:01 davestock in FILE 6 9/16
15:02 scubamania -- buys FILE @ @ 6 9/16
15:02 melhop joining FILE at 9/16
15:05 TradRgirl buys NETM 1 3/32
15:10 larisa shorts YHOO 117 1/8 (stop~ 117 3/4) small shares
15:15 TradRgirl sells NETM +3/32
15:15 _Bukkweet in and out LCOS @ 29 3/4 +1/2 (late post and luck trade)
15:15 larisa covers YHOO 116 9/16 +1/2
15:18 thewoman buys BAANF 13 1/8
15:21 larisa buys YHOO 117 5/8 (stop 117)
15:21 Luv2Trade in atac 5 5/8
15:24 larisa sells YHOO 117 1/2 -1/8
15:30 TradRgirl sells SUNW +9/16
15:31 meany in atac at 5 9/16
15:33 davestock out FILE 6 9/16 flat, sorry, can't take no losses
15:33 blaster out file 6 9/16 flat
15:39 melhop out FILE -1/4
15:40 meany out file - 7/32
15:43 okeydoke out IMCC 1 15/16 sold instantly! Could be gappper
15:51 Robbie out pamm flat.....
15:53 meany staying in ATAC for gap
15:54 Riverdog out XCIT + 3/8 on bounce
15:54 _RichG in DELL 1/2
15:57 larisa hiding her roubles in the deep pockets <Sorry NESI>
15:57 okeydoke out pamm 1 1/8
16:00 RedSky out BAANF +5/16

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