INTERVIEW-Brazil minister sees reform savings soon
Reuters, Thursday, November 05, 1998 at 21:52
By William Schomberg BRASILIA, Nov 5 (Reuters) - The long-awaited approval of Brazil's pension reform bill goes to the heart of the country's fundamental budget deficit problem and savings will be seen immediately, the country's Social Security Minister said. "We have taken a very important step," Waldeck Ornelas told Reuters in an interview Thursday. "Brazil has a profoundly unbalanced system that has taken its toll on all of society," he said. "The problem is principally in the public sector. Starting now, we will begin heading for a system where all workers will contribute to their pensions." The lower house of Congress finished voting on amendments to the reform bill in a late-night session Wednesday, closing a nearly four-year battle to overhaul the country's pension system, which is heading for a massive $35 billion deficit. Ornelas said the bill, which introduces minimum retirement ages of 53 for men and 48 for women already working, would save around $3.4 billion in 1999 and more in the following years. Higher retirement ages of 60 for men and 55 for women entering the job market were lost in the lower house earlier this year but should be approved separately in the Senate next year, the minister said. Pension savings in 1999 could total $8.2 billion if the government managed to approve an effective cut in civil service pensions, a controversial measure in a new fiscal austerity plan, and if it cracked down on social security fraud, he said. That is more than a third of the $23.5 billion the government plans to save next year in a bid to cut its budget deficit of more than 7 percent of gross domestic product and to recover the confidence of worried foreign investors. "Until now the government has been stuck with the bill for pensions," Ornelas said. "People in general didn't realize their taxes were being spent on that instead of education, health...and the things the government should be doing." He said the two key points of the reform -- the introduction of minimum retirement ages and the tying of pensions to contributions -- would be put into effect in the next few days via a ministerial decree. Much of the rest of the reform's small print will be spelled out in a batch of regulatory legislation to be sent to Congress. Ornelas said those bills would only require simple majorities -- unlike the reform, which needed tough, three-fifths approval -- and should be passed quickly. The main thrust of the regulatory bills would be to create individual social security accounts for all Brazilian workers, as opposed to the current system where contributions go into general funds. The individual accounts would make it easier to manage the pension system and avoid deficits, the minister said. The often-generous pensions of civil servants have been restricted to just over $1,000 a month under the terms of the reform bill, effectively bringing them in line with workers in the private sector. The regulatory legislation would set the terms for workers seeking to boost their pensions through private funds. The new bills would also limit government payments into pension funds of civil servants to double contributions from public sector workers. Up to now, the federal government has paid up to seven times the amount contributed by its employees. More new legislation seeks to close social security loopholes for agricultural firms and companies posing as non-profit-making organizations. Ornelas said he expected the new system would boost Brazil's already powerful pension funds, which are currently worth about 14 percent of GDP. That, however, is a long way behind Chile, where pension fund holdings are equivalent to about a third of GDP. But unlike Chile's entirely privately managed system, Brazil plans to keep the system under government control, Ornelas said. william.schomberg@reuters.com))
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