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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: Ali Chen who wrote (41561)11/16/1998 5:04:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) of 1572619
 
<Ten, just to clear out our discussion about AMD K7 point-to-point vs. Xeon's shared bus. Read up:>

Ali, there's no doubt in my mind that point-to-point has its advantages. We've been over the advantages and disadvantages countless times.

The problem is that in the K7 platform, I just don't see the point (no pun intended) behind the point-to-point connections. Xeon buses are not overloaded even with full 4-way configurations, and this holds true even if the L2 cache size per processor is at the minimum 512K. That's pretty good for a "mediocre" 100 MHz bus speed.

Now considering that the K7 is going to be like a P6 with a few extra cylinders, there's no way that the K7's appetite for data is going to be that much bigger than the P6. Plus, that P2P connection doesn't include a direct path to memory like some implementations of Alpha. That's why the value of P2P in K7 is questionable, when a simpler bus architecture would have sufficed. Perhaps the K7 architects are much more forward-looking, but more realistically, AMD had no choice in the first place considering that they had to borrow Digital's EV6 platform.

As for the value of P2P in I/O buses like NGIO, I have no comment at the time, since I haven't had the time to look at the NGIO specs.

<It looks like the concealed copying is still at habit over there (just joking, as usual!) And they didn't tell even you, a loyal employee... Geez, what a company...>

There's a lot of things that Intel doesn't tell me, a loyal employee, mainly because I'm not paid to know them, and even if I were, I wouldn't be telling you, either. But I can tell you that there's a lot of things that I *do* know that blind AMD supporters wouldn't and shouldn't know, such as juicy details on the @&*#($&&*#& ...

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