>>This is really just the start, though, since once 8i is
>>"completely out there" anyone with a Java book will be able to
>>write a database application that anyone with internet access
>>can use.
>
> This is the problem. (read my previous post) Seems to me that
> Ellison is trying to create a standard for the internet
> (nothing wrong with this). The problem is that he is basing it
> on JAVA, an unproven entity still. And he is trying to control
> the standard with his PR-hype. I know that Ellison knows
> software very well, but knowing that, I wonder why he resorts
> to hype so much. My conclusion is that there's not much to
> support his arguments. What he's trying to do isn't brain
> surgery. MSFT will tear up his model of the "software/internet
> future" if he doesn't put some meat on its bones. JMO.
I responded before to that, but there are some slightly different
issues (or at least a different expression of them) here, so I
will respond again.
There will be plenty of meat on the bones when 8i is out. I don't
think that you realize how big a difference these "simple things"
make. There was an internet long before Mosaic/Netscape, but
there wasn't that much out there. Being able to point and click
made a huge difference. There isn't that much to writing a
browser, but once everybody has one, bang!
Make a database internet-connected isn't a huge task (although
it's harder than writing a browser -- or at least the skills are
not as widely available), but there is a huge bang for the buck.
> Standards are good. I don't think the computer world will go
> for the SUN/ORACLE standard if Ellison and Nealy are in
> control. Gates can do just as good a job at monopolizing.
Sun controls the Java standard, not Oracle, and it is being
supported by a lot companies (except MicroSoft). Sun is actually
being remarkably conscientious about it too, although a lot of
people, including me, wouldn't mind seeing Java in the hands of a
consortium. The other standards that 8i supports, like CORBA,
SQLJ, etc., are real standards that have been agreed on by lots
of companies. Oracle really doesn't play the MSFT game. They
actually conform to real standards, not ones they make up after
the fact...
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