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To: Clarence Dodge who wrote (4230)	12/14/1998 10:04:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul	Read Replies (4) of 14778

Boot Managers vs Clarence's Machine. IMO boot managers are good for managing multiple operating systems. I understand the Clarence Machine to be a single OS NT based machine. I would design the NT install with that in mind and would not consider complicating the NT install with the NT pseudo boot manager or a third party boot manager. I understand the DOS installation to be a rescue utility best kept independent of NT. Considerations First Spots point is well taken. I agree the best way to install DOS without putting NT in jeopardy is to pull the plug on NT. I don't think there is a need to swap cables. If the second harddrive is on the slave channel it will be seen as the C drive as long as there are no other harddives attached to the controller. The bios would have to be set to boot the secondary drive....oops, pae indicated the ABIT BH6 Award bios can not boot floppy and slave IDE...if this is the case with the ASUS or AOPEN? one would have to swap cables for the install. The AMI bios on my IWILL mobo provides this option. The AMI bioses that I have investigated have more boot flexibility than the Award bioses I have seen. Next point. What DOS do you want to use? As Sean indicated Win95/98 DOS is REAL DOS. The reference was to NT DOS not being REAL DOS. Dave's PQ DOS suggestion may be a good option too. If it works it would be the least expensive as it is available in the PQ package. Maybe it is as simple as copying the PQ rescue floppy to a harddrive that has been formatted using Partition Magic as that is what you have available? The four DOS options 1. Win 98 2. Win 95 3. DOS 6.22 (or earlier) 4. PQ DOS I like using the PQ products with the full graphical interface provided in Win95 or Win 98. The DOS boot of the Partition Magic is a little more mysterious. Since the second harddrive is a rescue/fix/KOT device the Win95/98 may be the best way to go. You stand a better chance of using all of the hardware on the machine. Configuring hardware in DOS is a PITA. Also finding DOS drivers for some of your components may be difficult. With Win95/98 you could run the Power Quest products from Win95/98 and use the restart in MS DOS mode to flash bioses etc. Have you indicated the format for the NT installation? You have two choices FAT and NTFS. NTFS is the only choice if you do not want to partition the drive. This is where NTFSdos will come in as msdos will not see your NT installation if you format the NT installation. Most of the time it will not be an issue. You will not need to see the NT partition to flash bios or copy the partition using Drive Image. My current thinking. 1. Ask Minotaur to install NT as a stand alone OS on the first harddrive NTFS format. 2. Ask Minotaur to remove/unplug the NT drive. 3. Ask Minotaur to plug in the second drive and install Win98 in a 1 GB+/- FAT16 partition. 4. Ask Minotaur to plug in both harddrives with the NT drive on primary IDE channel one. The end result will be an NT machine with a DOS/Win KOT Considerations If you format the Win98/DOS drive FAT32 you will not be able to see it in NT. This could be an advantage if you end up with two partitions on the NT drive and want to preserve the NT drive letters as C then D. (I know you can map drives in NT but prefer defaults if reasonable) JMHO Zeuspaul

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