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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!!

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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (27398)12/29/1998 3:08:00 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) of 108807
 
#1- how did the substance of the universe come into being from nothing? Free conversion between matter and energy :Albert Einstein- the universe started as an energetic place and now has become a place full of mass. Last year scientists created matter from the convergence of laser beams- they created mass where only energy existed before. While this was theoretically possible it was not demonstrated until this experiment because it takes so much energy to create measurable mass. So there was never "nothing" according to theory- energy existed (if you have to have a creator for energy, then in my opinion you have to have a creator for the creator- or an endless daisy chain of ever bigger and better Gods- might as well just stop with energy). Even vacuums now are speculated to have energy content.

#2 What set the universe in motion and ordered its physical laws? The laws of thermodynamics.

But of course these are only theories. They are elegant, they fit the facts- but my immortal soul (if I believed I had a soul) is not in danger if they turn out to be incorrect.

>When someone finds a truth it is not just for them. Truth applies to all, I guess that's
what makes it true. An example in physics could be Sir Isaac Newton and his
theories about gravity. <

BTW- Newton's theories are mere approximations to explain time/space and are not a "truth". They are simply models of behavior-like evolution. Newton's thoeries break down at scales outside of our ordinary experience- either at the very big or the very small so they are in no way "true".

You need to read up a bit on the sciences before you try to use scientific arguments to support your beliefs. I recommend you read Kierkegaard- a philosopher who struggled with logic and faith and decided finally that you could not "prove" it- you had to merely take a leap of faith. You took this leap after a deep and intense personal struggle. Of course going down that road is dangerous for it can lead to existensialism- because who knows where your inner struggle will lead you? And when a man looks to the inside for truth, when all our insides are so very different, you never know what truth a man will come up with. It is not the least like looking for scientific proofs- it is more like looking for a painting you would like to look at on your wall for the rest of your life. You pick up one philosophy and perhaps it is too gloomy, you pick a religion, but perhaps it does not suit you, and finally you find something that fits you like a second skin. It appeals to your mind. It seems to fit your thoughts. It gives you comfort and peace- did you think only your truth could do that? Lots of people have found truth- all kinds of truth, and it IS personal truth and there may not be ONLY ONE(you see I am not absolute- I allow that there might be only one- whereas you say there MUST be only one). But if there is a creator, and if he has a sense of humor, when you get to wherever we are going he'll let you think you got there without the rest of us.
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