Aleta, this is a copy of my post to HPD, on Yahoo, which got completely ignored by him and others. Interesting they ignored it, huh? Note the insult he uses in the term "poster-boy." What's the meaning of HPD's insult? More negative drag, another shot across the bow from a wolfpack participant--that's all. Here's the post:
HIGHPLANESDRIFTER: You could safely conclude practically anything about your favourite poster boy ... others may take a more cautious approach.
PartyTime: We both know North America--admittedly the U.S. more than Canada--is are two hero-worshipping societies. But I guess you weren't around in the early days when I clearly stated the only hero-whorshipping I do involves baseball. I'm a purist when it comes to baseball and any hero in the game who receives my praise deserves it.
Drifter, your reference to "poster-boy?" Aren't you again being a bit ad hominem?
In my view, good and innocent folk get harmed in the course of "doing business." Indeed, when it comes to business, money, power, all of that, it's cutthroat. That's why we see virtually any corporation --U.S. or Canadian--showing up in civil and/or administrative court hearings.
As an aside, I rooted for the human to prevail over IBM's Big Blue in that much-heralded chess game. But what's that got to do with baseball?
I presume you mean Pat Hayton as "poster-boy." Well, let me ask was Hayton right to lead Netvest (late '96 or early '97) to do the following:
1) Buy an OTC shell, rename NETZ and begin operations as a holding company geared to online advertising?
2) Buy Mediabank, an online advertising company?
3) Buy Wide Web Media from Ruppert Murdoch? [Picking up, as a business partner in the process, Ozemail--which might merge with MCI/Worldcom.]
4) Bring on board as NETZ's first CEO, BMW's top-notch executive Ronald Meatchem; and buying Autotrak (automobile tracking over the Internet). [According to my Boston coffee chat with Hayton last fall, this was then on the back burner.]
5) Buy echoMEDIA which had debuted television quality Internet advertising before bluebloods at the New York Yacht Club? [Was Hayton involved in this presentation?]
6) Buy Softbank Interactive Marketing (SIM) from Softbank Holding
Company-Japan? SIM had been, until the Asian Contagion, market leader over Doubleclick in late '96-early '97. [And SHC-Japan now remains a business partner in the process.]
7) Initiate the merger/potential Nasdaq listing via ESVS and bring in former Texas Instruments VP/Acer board chair advisor, Steve Lair, as CEO to trim the fat and help consolidation of ESVS and Zulu?
8) Concepualize ZuluGroup.com as a vertically integrated Internet company featuring technology, advertising and ecommerce and bring in executives from Disney/Pixar, Barnes & Noble, AOL Digital City, Digital, Zintropy, Boxtop Interactive, etc.?
8) Buy brandsforless.com to function as ZuluGroup.com a subsidiary? BFL's chair, is prestigious enough to sit on a national Internet advisory committee (replete with a dozen or so U.S. senators and congresspeople) for Progessive Policy Institute; and whose CEO oversees an operation of 3000 brand names and thousands and thousands of products.
9) Develop the ZuluGroup.com concept by getting the ESVS Colorado
incorporation and the ZULU Utah incorporation into one registration via a Deleware incorporation? Plusl, efforts to correct the ESVS delisting by getting a rejuvenated entity onto the Nasdaq/Amex board.
Does Hayton get credit for operating against a backdrop of incredible insult (what you and others have offered on the thread); efforts of sabotage (the fraudulent Disney letter); and, of course, the day to day personnel and financial constraints any company faces?
Well, like I said, Drifter, my heroes come from baseball. But on the whole, notwithstanding mistakes along the way (which Hayton opponents are evermore quick to point out), I think Mr. Hayton has held a strong vision and done an admirable job trying to pull it all together against great odds.
Were I you, Drifter, I'd drop the "poster-boy" thing--unless, of course, you can find a picture of Hayton riding a polo pony! Then you can hang that up on your wall! (LOL) |
