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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (45560)1/12/1999 2:50:00 PM
From: Ali Chen  Read Replies (3) of 1573434
 
Tench, <Actually, the K7 bus is a 100 MHz double-pumped bus. That means that the requests, snoops, and other protocol stuff occurs at 100 MHz.>
I am curious how you can make this kind of
bald statements if you know NOTHING about the
EV6 protocol? I guess you are projecting
this nonsense to all split-transaction
busses based on your "knowledge" of Pentium-Pro
protocols. BTW, you are wrong.

Even more, sorry to disappoint you, but
speaking in terms of bus requests etc.,
the Pentium Slot bus runs at HALF of the
rated frequency! The matter is that your
bus uses co-called "Latched Bus Protocol"
for all control and address signals.
This means that these signals have to be
asserted ONE FULL CLOCK before they
are sampled by receiver, or the sampling
cannot go every clock on these lines!

Yet more, some signals like HIT#, HITM#,
BNR#, AERR#, BERR# are specified to
have TWO CLOCKS OF SETTLING TIME "before
they may be safely observed" (P.3-3),
or at 1/3 of the rated FSB speed!!!

Please check out the "Pentium Pro Family
Developer's Manual", Vol.1 "Specifications",
Chapter 3 "Bus overview" and 4 "Bus Protocol",
figure 3-1, and any of figures in Ch.4.

Now I guess it becomes quite clear why Intel
has these problems with ECC error signalling
in 4X Xeon configuration:
when this outdated sloppy bus gets overloaded
by more than 2 CPU, these settling times are
not enough to handle across the 4x bus!

However you are absolutely correct that the
double-pumping at the DDRAM side of a chipset
is irrelated to FSB protocol.
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