Looking beyond the PE
The February edition of MONEY magazine has an article on stock valuation with the above title. It does a nice job of describing the use of dividend yield, price/sales, price/cash-flow book value etc and my own favorite, return on equity (ROE) which it characterises as one of the more important valuation numbers. Further, it emphasises the importance of the ratio of a company's ROE to PE ratio - the bigger the better. However, it gives two examples, Ford(F) and Philip Morris(MO), which it describes as 'dirt cheap' on this basis... Let's compare and discuss these numbers with GRIN's. (F and MO numbers from article, GRIN's from YAHOO profile)
COMPANY__ROE(%)_____PE______ROE/PE MO__________48________15.5______3.1 F____________25_________11_______2.3 GRIN_________26________5.3_______4.9
So GRIN is a clear winner on this basis (you knew that would happen). BUT WAIT, IT GETS BETTER !! Remember my earlier post#63 on valuation of GRIN using ROE. What do we need to check before we consider the ROE number to be believable and robust ? That's right, long-term debt. OK, GRIN has no long-term debt so the ROE is quite believable. Now for MO... wow there, they are sitting with a debt of $49B (that's BILLION !). Their debt/equity ratio is a staggering 77% ! Maybe things are better over at Ford..uh, oh, Ford has a debt of $61.9B (work out what those interest payments are). Their 'big' ROE numbers come from the small equity number (equity = assets - liabilities) which results from the big debt liabilities.
So what happens to these companies when a business slow-down or recession arrives and the cash-flows get crimped ? The normal response is to cut-back on staff/expenses etc, but the only way to cut-back on debt payments is with cold, hard cash. Ah but, you say, F and MO have substantial cash positions to weather these times. Let's see, at 9% interest rate, F has cash for 12 months loan payments and MO has 6 months payments and at the end of those periods the debt remains unchanged.
I'd say people who follow this thread now know more about basic stock valuation than MONEY magazine people. My advice for Ford and Philip Morris ?... pray for short recessions.
My 2c.
Frank |