HI Allen: re >Has this company ever made money after you add up all the "special" one time charges (segregation of deficits)? < So far as I can tell their accounting practices, have allowed them to fake a small profit in the past, but was never really there. They have caught some heat for that, but have not given up cooking the books even yet. They they did some improving, but they are still getting higher marks than they deserve. They talk about increased cash coming in..but they have out spent that increase 2 to one..and they still won't talk about things beyond the so called refunds..it's just a guess on how many people have called their credit card company and did a charge back..they want you to think you are beholding to them to get your money back, like they are doing you some favor..or that they will cause you credit troubles if you cancel payment. What I know is that if they try they can only hurt themselves. So they have all the sign ups on paper but that is like counting the chicks before they hatch, just how much income they really will get I don't know, but I doubt it's any were near what they used to make this report less drastic. So we can look forward to some more "special or unusual charges in the future"..beyond that..they counted the full amount as income for those that signed up for a year in the last quaker.. I'll have to look but even by AOLs statment that was a large percent so now if so many are paid up for a year ( and she took a credit for that as last quarters income ) what does she do to make up for that in the next 3 quarters, as were will more money come from if she can't get new signups..as for the little she made off advertising, sure it was a big percentage increase, but it's not hard to increase something that was very tiny to begin with, and the 40m..is not anything even close to what she spent advertizing..my out looks are very negative for her future..the so called 3.4m + she is to spend, is a joke too..she don't have it. The work will get done OK, but on credit..as the company doing the work just happens to be a rival, and will then have a lean on AOL..she is going to get eaten up. The stock is going to be almost worth less when it's all over, then maybe after a big restructure she will come back, but under new control. This could take some time to come home, I'm trying to buy way out of the money puts ( cheaper )..for next year, but I see they have price on them..that's very high for a healthy company..so my guess is that insiders are accumulating out of the money leaps, to have a way out of what they know is going to happen but won't talk about. Jim |