Author: teevee -- Date:1999-02-22 13:21:58 Subject: Post Script-don't deal me in-
WillP, On a more serious note, the way JV's normally work is that the operator will provide a 30-60 day notice to its partner(s) to put some cash into an operating account AND demonstrate that they have the money to fund their ongoing projected share of costs...or face immediate dilution(asuming the operator is prepared to go it alone or take on a larger interest).......the notion that RTP would procede on the basis that Aber's board of directors would or could spend a 100 million without having the other 250 million bucks lined up is absurd....nobody in the real world of business acts this way or this recklessly......besides, there are feduciary liabilities in additon to duties and responsibilities that directors of Aber are no doubt very aware of........If Diavik is as good as you think it is, RTP will not hesitate or blink when it comes to diluting Aber because they can't ante up at the card table of diamond mine development(and neither will the Nevada's as lenders of last resort for that matter).....I'm afraid a $100 million bucks isn't enough when you are playing an open stakes game with dealers like RTP and DeBeers.....hmmmmm....maybe Winspear is nervous for good reason afterall? Perhaps our foolosophy friends, jspec and RealityCheck could jump in here and make a compelling argument for "enlightened self interest" as the basis for an Aber financing, via debt and or equity, for the balance of the funds required for Aber's share of capital costs for developing diavik? regards, teevee
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Author: WillP -- Date:1999-02-22 14:37:01 Subject: Good Choice, I've Got a Full House
Sorry for the poker title...I couldn't resist.
Actually...only the current years expenses could be so included. It depends on how the deals are struck, however. I don't pretend to be privy to that. :-)
I don't think that DDML or its parent would consider the possibility, however unlikely, of increasing its share of ownership to be 'reckless'. Not at all. :-)
The problem with trying to speculate along this line is simple...there is no 'bankable feasibility' study...hence no bank. Nor is there going to be until there is something to 'take to the bank'. There most assuredly have been discussions with lenders, but that isn't going to make it into the public domain any time soon. The final words between them, I'm sure are: "Well, when you're done feasibility...."
Or...back to the Winspear example...does Winspear have the expenses for 2000, 2001, 2002....on hand?
You're correct about the 'dilution'. Assuredly the operator would be very willing to strike a side deal, or just proceed with an increased pro-rated share of the project.
But it's not going to happen.
Put another way...in simple terms...if Aber can't find $200-250 million in debt financing from a Canadian or international bank with proven reserves of 20 million tonnes grading just under an ounce of gold equivalent, and a further 10 million at a lower but substantial 'grade'...then woe betide the Canadian resource sector.
I'm sure you didn't intend it that way...but it's starting to sound much like the equivalent of a "certain $2000 per tonne minimum ore value" refrain that keeps popping up. :-)
A more pertinent question in that case might be...what *are* the banks going to do with their money for hire?
There's actually an easy way to judge the future attitude of financial institutions towards Aber's prospects.
Ahhh....speculation. Must be a slow day on the Winspear front. :-)
P.S. I see one of my two primary interests had a good day on the market. Maybe someone put out a 'buy' on them. (rotfl) :-)
Cheers,
WillP |