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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK
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To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (37855)3/11/1999 8:02:00 PM
From: Johnathan C. Doe  Read Replies (2) of 67261
 
There are medical malpractice situations in all of medicine; there are also the horrid coathanger abortions of the past that were more typical than you seem to recognize. None of that changes the DEBATE about the issues pro and con. These are just rare and extreme things that are not the typical or even the atypical examples; they are the rare fringe things that occassionally happen.

You seem to miss the point; miscarriage kills very highly developed babies in the womb. This is natural. I'm making a distinction; if a woman's body has the natural right to kill the baby no matter how developed; it does this according to God's design of the body. So the development of the baby really isn't relevant to the argument. Under natural conditions; the baby has no rights no matter how highly developed; if the mother's body miscarries the baby; the baby loses in that hierarchy. It a natural hierarchy. If you want to get into a debate about where medical science should ever be involved in the outcome of things of the body; well, there are some people like the Christian Scientist's that thing they should not be involved, but most think that doctors can be involved in the workings of the body. If the mother's life is in danger; the doctor can induce a miscarriage of a fully developed healthy fetus many months along in development and this is just a medically induced copy of a miscarriage; it isn't natural, but it follows the natural hierarchy; the mother comes before the baby. That is why God designed miscarriage and I assume that it is God's will that doctors know how to save a mother from dying if the pregnancy goes wrong for her health regardless of the health of the fetus.

Now medical ethics kicks in when the mother is not in danger and so the doctor induces miscarriage; say using the French Pill so that no limbs are lost and we can leave that technique out. Getting on that though; don't you think RU-Whatever should be allowed into the US so that we won't have surgical abortion, but just induced miscarriage and let the mother's body handle the how of aborting the fetus? The ethic question is at what point is aborting a fetus that is healthy when the mother is healthy ethically wrong. I think that answer has to be coupled with many situational aspects. Is it ethically right or wrong to force a 12 year old girl to carry a baby to term conceived through rape or incest; I think it would be wrong. None of this is black and white; just pictures of fetus development and no human environment as part of the equation. It is about a lot of issues; not just the fetus. People understand that there are real situations where a baby is just not to be defended as in the case of rape. It's an unholy conceived baby and why should it be given rights???? You give fetus's rights and you subvert the natural order made by God. A miscarriage would be a mother's body wronging the unborn fetus and so should its hiers have a right to sue for damages? Should the husband get to sue the wife for civil wrongful death or the grandparents of the husband for the wife cheating them out of a grandkid? Giving a fetus full rights as if it were a person opens up a legal nightmare. That's been explored and is well established. This is an old debate you folks lost a long time ago and nothing has changed about it.
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