Q. If you did give that impression that would have been
   2       misleading, correct?
   3       A. Yes.
   4       Q. Okay. Now are you here -- I sort of got the impression
   5       before that you were here to testify as an independent expert.
   6       Am I incorrect about that?
   7       A. I never said independent.

   8       Q. Well, that's what I'm asking you.                                            Are you an independent
   9       expert testifying here today?

 10        A.      Yes.

 11                          THE COURT: Counsel, I can make an assessment. Mr.

 12        Judd did an outstanding job in creating the relationship and I
 13        don't know if he left anything unturned.
 14                          MR. MONTAL: Well, I just want to ask one --
 15                          THE COURT: But it's clear to me that any suggestion
 16        of independence would not be correct.