Z and others,
I think Joe is not being "hypersensitive" regarding remarks made on this thread. Americans may be "casually" insensitive, but that is in "casual" conversation. This forum is not always casual, and since Joe is not a frequent poster, I don't think we've reached a non-offensive level of familiarity with him. I thought the remarks were particularly offensive, and I don't know Joe, nor am I here to defend him.
Stand-up people would at least take a deeper, more honest, look at their remarks to Joe, and possibly consider acknowledging what could be construed as offensive remarks, and maybe (gasp!) offering an apology of sorts.
I think Joe may have overstated some of his displeasure with TSIG, and I sure don't agree with much of what he said (you all know my ardent support of TSIG), but personal attacks are offensive. Disagreement is fine, ethnic remarks are contemptible.
This is America, sure, so go ahead and call a spade a spade if you're talking about a shovel, but realize when you step over acceptable boundaries.
Best to all, of course,
Tim |