An Interview with Ron Heinz Novell's Sales Chief Takes Aim at New Markets
By David Martinez
Ron Heinz, senior vice president for worldwide sales, is a Novell veteran who has seen a lot during his 12 years with the company, and today he has the daunting challenge of growing revenue streams, breaking into new accounts, and managing a sales force that reaches around the globe. He has also been involved in several of the new initiatives Novell has rolled out in the past few months, including ShopNovell, the company's online store, and the Novell Internet Caching System, a new caching appliance sold through OEM partners like Compaq and Dell.
Recently I had the chance to sit down for a conversation with Heinz. We talked about Novell's turnaround, its new technologies and new initiatives, its battle with Microsoft, and more. You can watch or listen to the entire conversation using the RealMedia player. Or read the edited excerpts of the interview below.
DM: You've been with Novell since 1987. What have been some of the highlights?
RH: The growth of Novell in the early days was a wonderful experience for anybody who was here. But I think just as exciting is going through the turnaround. And as hard as it was for a couple of years to get Novell back on track, that's been probably the most rewarding part of my journey here at Novell.
DM: Before the turnaround, there must have been times, frankly, when you wondered if it was all worth it.
RH: Well, yes, frankly speaking. I think anybody who was here during what I call the "dark tunnel" probably wondered whether it was going to be worth it or not. And I think that probably makes it even more gratifying to stick in here and have that happen.
DM: Let's talk about the present. One big piece of news is Novell has announced some major new partnerships.
RH: The partnerships that are coming to pass are phenomenal. We're going to drive the whole caching market [through the Novell Internet Caching System], and in particular the announcements with Compaq and Dell are very exciting. It leads us into a new market that we haven't been in before. It also leads us into the beginning of new revenue streams and new customers around caching and around directory-enabled applications. I think that's one of the most exciting things about being at Novell at this time: the new markets and new opportunities that we have right now.
DM: As a salesperson, that's what you really must enjoy: having new markets to go into, new products to sell.
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RH: It makes it a lot of fun. We're engaging heavily with Compaq, IBM, Dell, HP, and a whole list of other major OEM players around the world in addition to telecommunication providers. The reception is outstanding; the excitement level is very high. So, yes, from a sales and marketing perspective it doesn't get any better than this right now.
DM: What are customers saying about Novell's direction?
RH: I think customers are beginning to understand where we're going. If you go back to two years ago, most of the account calls I went on went something along the lines of, "What's happening at Novell? We're about to throw you guys out. It looks like there's not going to be a long-term future." That has changed dramatically over the last two years to, "Congratulations on the turnaround, we're beginning to understand the directory, keep going, great job." I think all of our customers, even through the turnaround, wanted us to succeed. They like doing business with us, so in many regards, many of those customers during the turnaround were really pulling for us.
NOVELL VS. MICROSOFT
DM: You're on the front lines of the battle between Novell and Microsoft. Talk about how that works. It's not really Novell or Microsoft anymore.
RH: The Microsoft battle is an interesting one. It's clear that we compete head on in some markets. My strategy has been to help take Novell where Microsoft can't go, or can't go as quickly, and to position that to our customers. As an example, the directory. We have such a great lead, and customers, who are beginning to understand the directory-enabled applications, really begin to look at this thing much differently.
A couple of years ago this was much more of an intense problem than it is today. We were losing market share from an application server standpoint. We were being compared much more directly with Microsoft, and I don't care who you are in this industry, that's a position you don't want to be in. But I think with the new products we're bringing to the market—the directory-enabled applications, the advancements with NetWare 5—all are ground-rule changing products that make that comparison less easy for our customers to look at. I think our positioning is, "We make NT run better." And that story is a lot easier to tell today than it was a couple of years ago.
Also, the caching market and the network appliance marketplace that we're now beginning to enter, I think, gives us such a great opportunity in that market. That's another key differentiator that says, "We're different. We're going to take you where they can't go or can't go as quickly." And most of our customers are beginning to grasp that.
DM: Now let's talk about ShopNovell, Novell's e-commerce initiative. Can you tell us how it works and how it fits in with the rest of the way Novell sells products?
RH: We have two goals for ShopNovell. The first is to automate our existing business processes. For example, we'd like to have almost all of our orders come in via ShopNovell, whether they're from distributors, OEM partners, licensing customers. And we've set up ShopNovell to make the ordering process and the interaction with Novell more pleasant, easier, and more effective—not only for our customers but for ourselves. That's phase one.
Phase two is to begin to introduce broad, overall solutions that the customer can order from Novell or from partners. We have some of this online today, so if a customer is interested in buying, and they're not currently a licensing customer or distributor or OEM partner, they can visit one of our partner sites and very efficiently place an order through our partners.
The opportunities are endless. We'd like to introduce more consulting services, technical support offerings, and give our customers a place to interact with Novell and obtain any type of product or service, whether it's from Novell or from our channel, using a very effective and enjoyable and easy mechanism.
INTERNATIONAL SALES GOAL: 60% OF NOVELL REVENUE
DM: Finally, let's talk about international sales. How are sales doing in other parts of the world, especially the Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA) region?
RH: Last quarter, we had a record quarter in EMEA that far and away exceeded our forecast. We're really starting to see a couple of things happen in Europe. One is the economy is very robust. Second is that there tends to be a real uptake in directory-enabled technology as more accounts come online with the Internet and with the overall concept of network management. We believe we're just getting started there in Europe.
We've had serious macroeconomic issues around the world, in particular in Japan, Asia Pacific, Latin America. But it's safe to say that we're coming out of those cycles. We've fought our way back from a couple of tough quarters, and we're starting to see economic stability.
I think what we at Novell need to do is to continue to work on becoming more of a global oriented company versus a U.S. company doing business abroad. So I chair an international awareness committee for the company that interacts with executive staff, with product development, with marketing, that talks about the things we need to do to better understand the needs of our customers outside the U.S. I think if we execute crisply in that space over the next few years, we're going to meet my goal of having 60 percent of our revenue come from outside the United States and continue to grow overall business for Novell.
You can watch or listen to the entire conversation using the RealMedia player.
Published April 21, 1999 |