<< Wow. I have to say, I appreciate your prompt response and consideration. Two over riding comments on my part. 1) You appear to have drawn a line in the sand and will take a side against any issue presented on behalf of Muslims. 2) I have to give you credit for having some consideration in principle for justice on behalf of innocent people. >>
Why thankyou! I have nothing against moslems in general. Afterall they constitute 20% of humanity. And why should it surprise you that I or others in the west care about "innocent civilians".
<<You insist that I have some affinity for Saddam because I am a Muslim.... I despise him. >>
OK. Wasn't clear from your original argument. It seemed like you were using your own version of moral relativism(he does it, because its crushing armed insurrection, and so does everyone else, therefore its OK etc. I am sorry that I misunderstood you).
<< You must read those extreme anti-muslim web pages. Get some comic books if you like fiction. >>
brees, I read this in a book, written by a practising "devout" Moslem, who happens to hate the house of Saud("House of Saud" by Said Aburish). There are many other documented facts that I suggest you peruse through.. I happen to have friends from all over the world(thanks to 6 years in grad school), and allow me to assure you that Saudi is not the benign place you want me to believe. Slavery has been an institution in Moslem society. Please correct me if I am wrong, but the Ottomans literally enslaved the Greeks, Serbs, Armenians throughout the middle ages. The central asians used to have an efficient "slave barter system". So it didnt die out 1400 years ago as you would lead me to believe.
<< I did not witness anything akin to what you describe. >> therefore it must not exist!!!
<< We are seen as an unprincipled, egotistical bully bent on having our piece of everyone elses pie. >> Mostly by fanatics hoping to charge up crowds, and dictators and demagogues using the imagery of "an evil empire" to cling to power.
Please understand I have nothing against Moslems. I have had detailed discussions about it with people(unlike your automatic assumption that I am "a broken record repeating CNNs lines"). The religion itself is interesting(more like Judaism than Christianity), but (most of) the people however are firmly and hopelessly stuck somewhere in the 8th century. |