I think you should of read these S.I. posts a month back...Greenie Issues:
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Subject: ECHARTERS
To: John Ripley
From: E. Charters
Apr 3 1999 5:20AM EST
Reply #3101 of 3139
Well kids, now let's tell the truth. Within a few
days, free cyanide in water is completely destroyed
by natural ultraviolet light. Where iron and copper
are present, as is often the case in nature,
cyanide readily forms harmless compounds with these
metals. As a matter of fact, mill managers have the
hardest time to keep free cyanide "alive" because of
the ubiquitous cyanide "poisons" that destroy it.
There are many commercial processes that easily
dispose of cyanide safely and completely, two of
them in use are the Hydrogen Peroxide and
Chlorine processes. After chlorination of water
in the parts per million, cyanide is 100%
destroyed.
Further, if the Ph of the water is brought below
6.5, which is easily achievable, it is again
impossible to retain cyanide in aqueous solution.
Cyanide in the environment, as we know in Canada
after 100 years of gold mining is a complete non-
issue. There is not one lake polluted with cyanide,
nor one lake's fish stocks depleted because of
its use. Believe me, I have lived in about 6
communities that have used more of that chemical
than all the mines in the States have so far and
have personal knowledge of this.
The document on this website is full of propaganda
and half truths. Summitville has zero problem with
cyanide. Its problem, which is natural and precedes
the mining of the site by perhaps 100 million years,
is copper leaching from the rock in the mountain. God
put the river and the copper there, so complain to him.
If you want the correct information on cyanide and
its environmental controls contact the Ministry of
Northern Development and Mines in Sudbury, Ontario,
Canada and ask for the relevant specialist. This
is a government branch that deals with mining in
Ontario and I doubt that they will give out any
data that is in danger of rebuke from knowledgeable
authority.
EC<:-}
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To: +richard badauskas (3121 )
From: +E. Charters Monday, Apr 12 1999 2:56PM ET
Reply # of 3139
There is no major problem with acid mine water discharge from sulphide mines in Canada that I know of. I can think of no river or Lake which is terribly damaged from acid mine wastes or tailings pond wastes. I could be wrong here as I have not given it much in depth study and I am going on having lived near mines most of my life in many areas of Canada. Even in the Sudbury area you would expect that the lakes in the area would be laid waste by tailings drainage but this is not the case. The damage there was caused by ancient smelters putting sulfur dioxide gases into the air. This can now be recovered almost 100% by catalytic conversion.
Some Iron oxide mines had a real problem with acid tails. One could lime the tails and prevent the metals from staying in solution. This was not always done. I have access to a technology that can recover 100% of the dissolved metals from mine waters at pennies per ton. As a matter of fact it can desalinate water cheaper than any other method. It is brand new technology and as far as I know not in place at any mines. De-cyanidation could be achieved by this method too. It is very exciting tech as it promises to be able to clean up and permit many situations to a higher standard and much cheaper than previously thought possible.
EC<:-}
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Subject: ECHARTERS
To: richard badauskas
From: E. Charters
Apr 13 1999 3:40PM EST
Reply #3124 of 3139
Ok boy, who are you?
Oh sire, I get my id.. in my backpocket her sire.. jes aminute
GUN!!!
BLAM ITTY BLAM BAM KAPOW POW BLAM BANGITTY BANG KAPOW BANG BANG BANG BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAMITTY BLAM KAPOW.
oh maybe that wasn't a gun.. looks like a black and red wallet. could a sworn it was a gun..
why would he pull a gun on five cops? he couldn't hope to beat them all... well some guys is jes crazy...
( What he means is...why question authority...as he knows what he speaks ..in Canada.)
Message 8979432
Message 8979432
......<<... This is a slap in the face to all
those citizens who believed and participated in the Lands for
Life initiative, and especially those who were members of the
"round tables" who thought they would finally make a difference
on how government would work to the benefit of all.
Minister Hodgson said in his April letter, "we could go back
to the old system of land-use planning used by the Liberals and
NDP, in which government imposes new land use restrictions on
you, and you'll have to learn to live with it. But that is not
right." If Chris Hodgson is a man of principle and stands behind
what he says, he should immediately withdraw his support for
Ontario's Living Legacy, and resign his position as minister of
northern development and mines in protest, because he knows
Ontario's Living Legacy "is not right
...>> Last part above only ( 10% ) click to read the 90 %.
Chuca
PS- NO position, hold all loosers at a monent - so when it increases ...sell to mitigate thous' loss.
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