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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK

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To: one_less who wrote (48898)5/21/1999 3:50:00 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (3) of 67261
 
>You are making too many assumptions with your definition of "Might makes Right."<

This is no assumption, my friend. It is a self-evident truth. Might controls reality. Rightness depends upon Might. There exists no overarching moral Rightness in nature with authority sufficient to normalize all human behaviour. And if not, then there exists no thing to declare some behaviours right and wrong. If this is true, then by what criteria can we make any sort of judgement? Well, we may pluck a morality out of our own heads based upon our perceptions of nature. But none of this will be objectively apparent to all. There is something that is objective, however, and you by now should know what this is. (grin)

>You, in this scenario are a powerless, numbskull<

Precisely, and here we see you merely supporting my point. In the scenario you have previously submitted I am so powerless as to be unable to assert the notion of my having been misused. Might to assert my will did not rest with me, but this is not necessarily always the case. This is only one scenario (and a very bad one, in that it merely points out that I as a human am limited by nature in certain circumstances. I cannot, for example live forever. Death is Mightier than all, and is therefore unable to be meaningfully judged by anyone). There are many circumstances where I may not be as bound by any sort of nature as I am in this particular circumstance. In other circumstances I may possess sufficient Might to implement my will without encountering any meaningful judgement at all. If this is true, then in whatever I do I may declare it "Good", and there will exist no one who might claim otherwise. My Might, therefore, makes me Right. The thing is just that simple.

Whatever the circumstances, whether Might rests with me or elsewhere, the entity with greater Might renders all challenges to its declarations and/or existence meaningless. This is why your argument fails. There exists no ultimate law AND authority to give meaning to moral judgements. Nature may present laws (physical parameters), and in some cases it may present natural limitations and consequences to breaking these laws. Nevertheless nature does not necessarily bind in every instance in the same way it bound me in the instance you have submitted. Whatever the circumstances, sufficient Might renders challenges meaningless to the uttermost. And if it does this, then the mere fact that its will is implemented gives it more meaning than anything else.

Gotta git!
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