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To: MikeM54321 who wrote (6618)5/27/1999 2:38:00 PM
From: Hardly B. Solipsist  Read Replies (1) of 9068
 
> Hardly, Thanks for the response. Apparently Java originally was
> considered an application that had intentions of sending the
> app down the pipe, to be processed on the client, via the
> interpreter. But you are saying that Oracle's "i" plans are
> different. Oracle's plans call for the processing to be done on
> the server directly. Processing a program written in Java yet
> it's not sent down to the client. Interesting.

Java is just a programming language. It is the case that it has a
standard binary form which is capable of running on lots of
hardware platforms, but that isn't necessarily the most
interesting thing about it. For enterprise software it is
probably more interesting that Java is "safe" (which means that,
if the Java VM is properly implemented, a faulty Java program
shouldn't be able to accidentally crash the VM, and hence the
system the VM is running in.)

> Now if I got that right(which I may not?), when it comes right
> down to it, isn't Oracle basically sending screen refreshes
> down to the browser for display? -----------

In one model it is sending web pages, which isn't (I think) the
same thing. In this model, the client isn't acting like a display
terminal or an X-windows client, it's acting like a
browser. However, there are a lot of protocols that have been
built on top of TCP/IP, so you could develop to a lot of
different models if you wanted.

>> "The idea is that instead of writing the application to run in
>> some homemade server using Apache and perl and OCI and an RDBMS
>> all together, you just write the application to run in the
>> database and have the database be the webserver."

> Gee now if I can just figure this out, then maybe I can finally
> understand where Oracle is trying to position themselves! If
> you, or any CTXS readers can expound on this, it sure would be
> great.

I can try, but I don't know what you don't understand about
it. Apache is a web server that is a standard, and happens to be
free software. Web sites that write their own servers frequently
use the kind of patched-together configuration that I mentioned
above. It would be simpler for them if they could get the server
out of the box, especially if they are keeping their data in an
Oracle database.
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