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To: V$gas.Com who wrote (30423)6/7/1999 9:16:00 AM
From: The Swordsman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 44908
 
More of the past to teach about today.

Message 5051584

To: gambler (1551 )
From: JEFF BERRY Monday, Jun 29 1998 2:08PM ET
Reply # of 30424

Gambler, When you contact Mr. Gordon see if you can set up a time for the CC. Also, Ask him to print the S.I. posts: 1380,1387,1422,1525,1526 so as to be prepared to provide answers to these questions.

Also, Ask his opinion about TSIG's stock dilution and it's effect on current shareholders.

According to the S-8 filed 6/25/98

Current shares outstanding: .............43,963,030

shares under option issued under the non-qualified stock option plan, which includes the 7 million option that was granted to Mr Gordon on 4/20/98. A 7 million option that He may already have exercised since 6/25.

Total options under the plan............12,689,193

Other shares that are either: a)under option or b)are under commitment to be issued, which includes commitments to CCI for 6,000,000 and commitments to developers and consultants Lexus Parners & The Ira Group totally 7,500,000 shares

Total options for these commitments:....21,460,693

Grand total of all outstanding shares included shares under commitment and under option.......78,112,916

And of course this total will be increased if and whenever any proposed Private Placement is completed.

Mr Gordon, It would appear that TSIG is well on it's way to the maximum 100,000,000 authorized shares. If the company reaches the 100,000,000 share level including all commitments will the company amend it's by-laws so as to increase authorized shares above the 100 million mark?

Respectfully, JAB




To: V$gas.Com who wrote (30423)6/7/1999 9:19:00 AM
From: The Swordsman  Respond to of 44908
 
And again. If you are really determined to line someone else's pockets with your dough, better read the filings and also take a hard long look at what you were told almost a year ago as it relates to what's being discussed today.

Message 5188398

To: Redman (1981 )
From: JEFF BERRY Tuesday, Jul 14 1998 11:28AM ET
Reply # of 30425

Marty,

The weightier issues of concern that have been expressed by myself and others on the thread have been summarily dismissed by yourself and many other tsig zealots based on what Mr. Gordon has said in addressing these concerns.
The tsig bulls seems so quick to grasp the sayings of Mr. Gordon as infallible and brand heretical anyone who does not accept his word as the gospel truth.

Solid DD however, requires as a foundation reliable source material "always check your references" is the watch phrase that merits application even when applied to company founders and CEO's.
The central issue in the tsig debate is the credibility, reliability and the believability of Mr. Gordon and tsig.

When we examine the past public record, it clearly casts a shadow of doubt on Mr. Gordon's infallible word.

A. In Sept. of 1994, the SEC imposed a cease and desist order against "harvest", a privately held company controlled by Mr. Gordon and against Mr. Robert P. Gordon PERSONALLY for "alleged misrepresentations".

B. On August 22, 1996, legal proceedings were filed in district court by "Ungerleider" v. Robert P. Gordon (personally) and Phoenix information corp. The suit alleges that defendants failed to perform "oral promises" which plaintiff contends were part of the settlement agreement.

C. Numerous lawsuits pending against tsig claim "breach of contract" (failure to keep written word) and breach of "oral" agreement.

Added to these allegations of the public record are recent conflicting statements of Mr. Gordon.

A. During Gambler and Beebs conference call with Mr. Gordon on 6/4 (post #1015), Mr. Gordon stated that the 5 million dollar loan that he had signed and made available to tsig on 4/23/98 was not going to be needed due to the private placement scheduled for completion in mid-July. Three weeks later on 6/25 an S-8 is filed with the SEC declaring that Mr. Gordon had as of the date of the filing sold 6,480,000 shares of tsig common stock that had been registered for sale on May 8th.
On 6/30 Gambler and Beebs have another CC with Mr. Gordon to discuss his selling of shares and other issues (post #1594). Mr. Gordon stated that he sold the 6,480,000 shares to a private investment group in order to loan the proceeds to tsig.

If it is true that Mr. Gordon sold these shares in order to loan the proceeds to tsig and in fact stated that he did loan the proceeds to tsig, he would have had to have done so within a 21 day period between the 6/4 conference call and the 6/25 filing date of the S-8.
In view of Mr. Gordon's statement on 6/4 that the loan would NOT be needed, it seems rather amazing that within the next 21 days his thinking could be so dramatically reversed so as to pursue the sale of 6,480,000 of his personally owned shares, find a buyer, negotiate a deal, draw up the legal documents, close the deal and loan the proceeds to tsig. If this were in fact true, it would be "light speed" in comparison to the months it has taken for the private placement that has been long in the works and which has yet to be completed. But if were to somehow have occurred, as Mr. Gordon has stated, the fact of the matter is that it renders as false Mr. Gordon's declaration on 6/4 that the loan from himself to tsig would not be needed.

B. During the 6/4 CC, Mr. Gordon stated that they (tsig) have commitments for the entire 7.5 million PP and that the deal will be complete by mid-July. However, on 7/9 Mister Ex posted to the thread (#1864) that he had just received a copy of the PP and that his DD indicated the presentations of the PP were ongoing and that tsig was receiving favorable responses. If what Mister Ex reported is true, is it a far cry from Mr. Gordon's statement that the entire 7.5 million was already committed as of 6/4.

C. During the 6/4 CC Mr. Gordon that the website "WILL be done by 6/8, but that testing and linking to various search engines, call centers and stuff like that would take a week or two to be perfectly in place".... This statement has already proved to be false.
On 6/16 in a press release Mr. Gordon stated that the CCI website is scheduled to be launched within the next 30 days.... This prophecy is also close to being declared false.

The statements of Mr. Gordon surrounding the website launch well illustrate the reason for many of Mr. Gordon's legal problems and his credibility shortage. He is clearly a man that "shoots from the hip" (or dare I say 'lip') without knowing if his gun is even loaded. He makes statements, declarations and commitments without fully understanding the issues and without the ability to see to it that they become reality. The 5 million dollar loan is a case in point:
Signed in April by Mr. Gordon to ensure that funds would be available to tsig, as requested by the board of directors, Mr. Gordon has now implied that he did not have the funds available to meet that obligation and commitment until he sold his 6,480,000 shares sometime between 6/4 and 6/25, a sale that as of 6/4 he was not even contemplating.

D. On 6/4 Mr. Gordon also stated that the $2,250,000 obligation to CCI as part of the original purchase agreement had already been paid. On 6/30, Mr. Gordon verifies that the CCI deal has not yet been completed and that payment of the 6 million shares to CCI had thus not yet been paid.
Does it seem logical that prior to the deal being completed tsig would pay $2,250,000 to CCI when they had not yet approved the final audit report? The fact that they had withheld payment of the 6 million shares until final approval argues against the rational of Mr. Gordon's claim that the $2,250,000 payment had already been made prior to the 6/4 CC.
The most powerful against Mr. Gordon's claim that the $2,250,000 had been paid to CCI between 4/30 (the date of the announced acquisition) and 6/4 (date of the CC) is that there is no reasonable explanation for the cash availability that would have made it possible to make such a payment between those dates.
Please review post #1380 wherein Mr. Gordon is challenged to address this claim (it contains a detailed reconstruction of the cash position of tsig from 3/31 through 6/4 based on documents filed by the SEC and conclusions that are drawn from these), a challenge that has yet to be addressed and rebuffed by Mr. Gordon and those who have questioned him.

E. To this very day tsig continues to misrepresent itself to the investing public, case in point: The CCI acquisition and the tsig website.
When tsig announced the definitive agreement with CCI, signed in March, it was also announced that CCI earnings for 1997 were 1.4 million (ten percent of sales). In a 4/30 press release, tsig announced the "completion of the CCI acquisition". Those who read the press release including most everyone on this thread (Gambler included, please see post #1072 for verification) were led to the conclusion that CCI was a done deal "completed" with no possibility of rescission. The press release was misleading since it did not even mention the contingencies that were still attached to the completion of the deal. It led investors to believe something that was not true.
Additionally in the same press release, the "unaudited" earnings for CCI were mentioned as being 800,000 for 1997. This was very subtle, easily missed by many. Rather than coming out forthright and clearly stating that the much publicized earnings report for 1997 of 1.4 million (10% of sales) was in error, it was instead slipped into one press release that was overlooked and missed by many current investors and most future investors. In fact, if you review the tsig thread from the beginning, May 1st, (the day after the press release, which mentions the 800k earnings figure), you will find that the only mention of this 800k earnings figure is in the body of the initial post by Gambler. However, in that same initial post, readers are directed to the CCI interview with CEO Darrell Piercy which highlights the 1.4 mill.earnings figure. In that same interview, the 10% earnings figure of 1.4 million is used to project future earnings of 3.5 million on Mr. Piercy's forecast of 35 million in future sales.
The subsequent posts to the thread from May 1st forward reveals that the common understanding of those posting to the board was that the 10% figure of the 1.4 million was still a current number.
Please review the following posts: (#18 by Gambler on 5/5) emphasizing the 10% earnings projection of 3.5 million on 35 million of sales which are by extension derived from the 1.4 million earnings figure (#73 by Bill Monahan 5/6) directing readers to the CCI interview with Darrell Piercy which highlights the 10% 1.4 million figure (post #909 by Nigel 6/1) again highlighting the CCI interview and the erroneous numbers therein posted as being the current data to base one's investment decisions upon.
If others were fully cognizant of the lowered earnings figure of 800k it is surprising that no posts were made by tsig Bulls in the know to correct the obvious misunderstanding that was being portrayed and communicated to readers of the thread and to warn of the erroneous numbers posted on the tsig website in the interview with the CCI CEO.
Since we have recently been informed that Mr. Gordon does read the SI thread it should be very obvious to himself that there has been a common misconception about the CCI 1997 earnings numbers. It should also be very obvious to Mr. Gordon that the central reason for this misconception is the erroneous information posted on the tsig website and yet Mr. Gordon has taken no action to update this obvious misrepresentation by at least posting a paragraph at the beginning of the interview updating and correcting erroneous earnings numbers with the latest information that has been available since at least April 30th.

The foregoing documents the folly of blindly accepting Mr. Gordon's statements without putting them to the test to verify accuracy. It also speaks as a confirmation in the course of wisdom for those who have done so in expressing their skepticism on this thread.
Based on the skeptical approach I will next address Mr. Gordons' answers to the questions that Gambler posted to his 6/30 CC with Mr. Gordon.

I will begin with the #1 question: Mr. Gordon's sale of his 6,480,000 shares.

Best regards, JAB



To: V$gas.Com who wrote (30423)6/7/1999 9:21:00 AM
From: The Swordsman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 44908
 
And again with more detail.

Message 5272073

To: Martin E. Frankel (1992 )
From: JEFF BERRY Wednesday, Jul 22 1998 12:07AM ET
Reply # of 30427

Marty,

In follow up to my post #1990:

On 6/25 Tsig filed form S-8 informing us that Mr. Gordon sold 6,480,000 of his personally owned shares. This is an undisputed fact. He did not loan them. They were legally sold.

Mr. Gordon's sale raised considerable concern. Why would Mr. Gordon sell 65% of his personally owned TSIG holdings at a time just prior to the launch of the CCI website?
On 6/30 Beebs and Gambler asked this question of Mr. Gordon during their CC. Mr Gordon explained that he did not sell his shares on the open market He stated that he sold them to a private investment group in order to loan the proceeds to TSIG. He also stated that the private investment group was restricted from selling the shares into the float and that by agreement they were holding the shares for resale back to Mr. Gordon at a later date.

As of this post, there is no way of verfying the truthfulness of Mr. Gordon's claims regarding the sale of his shares. There are however factors that when honestly weighed cast considerable doubt on the accuracy of Mr. Gordon's statements.

A)The big drop:

On May 8th the first day that Mr. Gordon became eligible to begin selling the 7 million shares that he had registered for sale, TSIG share price tumbled on heavy selling pressure. The stock price had been steadily rising throughout the week due to investor enthusiasm over the 4/30 press release announcing the "completion of the acquisition of CCI"......However the high of just over .70 reached that Friday May 8th quickly crumbled under the wave of a massive sell off.....A sell off that continued to keep downward pressure on the share price for ensuing weeks thereafter.

Was it just mere coincidence that Mr. Gordon gifted himself
7 million .15 shares on 4/23....Issued the CCI press release 4/30....Registered the shares for sale on 5/8...and then on this very day the day he could legally begin selling his shares TSIG's rapidly ascending stock price plummets on high volume?

...It is if you believe Mr. Gordon.

B)The profitless sale:

Mr. Gordon also claims that the proceeds of the sale of the 6,480,000 shares were loaned by himself to TSIG under the arrangements of the 5 million revolving credit facility that he had put in place between himself and TSIG on 4/23/98. Is it reasonable to conclude that this is a true statement.....Consider:

The $5,000,000 note between Mr. Gordon and TSIG specifically states "at no time shall the aggregate obligation of borrower to lender exceed one million U.S. dollars" Thus for Mr. Gordon's statement to be true he would have had to have recieved no more then 1 million for the sale of his shares.....Is this reasonable?
Mr. Gordon's option to acquire the 6,480,000 shares were at a cost to himself of $972,000, before associated expenses...Is it reasonable to conclude that Mr. Gordon would exercise his option on .15 shares to sell them at .1543, generating a mere $28,000 preexpense profit, at a time when the open market share price was well over .50 a share and climbing?

......If you believe Mr. Gordon it is?

C)The odd share amount:

Mr Gordon states that the 6,480,000 shares were sold to a private investment group. If this were true...why such an odd number?..Mr. Gordon registered 7,000,000 shares for sale. Why did he not sell all 7 million.....or perhaps 6,500,000?
When dealing with numbers in the millions it is rather unusual that a negotiated deal would involve such an odd number.
6,480,000 shares is a number much more in line with sale increments in the 10,000 to 20,000 range that combine to equal such a figure.......In fact the new S-8 registration filed 6/25 which allows Mr. Gordon to sell another 7,000,000 shares also re-registers the left over 520,000 shares that Mr. Gordon was still in the process of selling.

Is it reasonable to conclude that Mr. Gordon and an investment group choose the number 6,480,000 shares?

.....It is if you believe Mr. Gordon.

D)Lack of a proper SEC filing:

Mr. Gordon states that he sold the 6,480,000 shares to a private investment group. If this is true where is the SEC filing?

SEC law requires any person or entity to file form 13D when 5% or more of a company's outstanding shares are acquired. Once 5% is reached form 13D must be filed within 10 days. The filing includes the names of all individuals involved in the investment group. They also must describe all recent buying or selling activity as well as their purpose in acquiring such a large interest. Thus if everything is as Mr. Gordon claims that it is, we should have seen a filing at the very latest by Monday 7/6 describing the sale and verifying the restrictions of resale and commitments to hold shares for a future sale back to Mr. Gordon.

Is it reasonable to conclude that a private investment group has chosen to ignore this vital SEC filing requirement?

.....It is if you believe Mr. Gordon.

E)S-8 inconsistancies:

The S-8 filing on 6/25 specifically states that none of the proceeds from the sale of Mr. Gordon's shares would be recieved by TSIG. This is the same language as the 5/8 filing.
The filing also fails to support Mr. Gordon's claim since it does not mention that the 6,480,000 shares were sold to a private investment group with restrictions on resale...Language that would have been included if it were true. The legal firm that prepared the S-8 would have access to all the specific documentation and would be required to disclose it by virtue of the fact that 6,480,000 would make such a private investment group an insider with well over 10% of the outstanding shares. In fact they would be the single largest shareholder!

Is it reasonable to conclude that the legal firm omitted this vital and material information from the S-8 by mistake, or perhaps on purpose in order to mislead other TSIG shareholders and potential investors?

....It is if you believe Mr. Gordon.

Consider another possibility:

Mr. Gordon gifts himself 7,000,000 shares at .15 a share on 4/23. One week later on 4/30 Mr. Gordon issues a somewhat misleading press announcing the "completion of the acquisition of CCI"...knowing that such a release would be met with investor favor certain to rapidly move TSIG stock price higher. Mr. Gordon then registers the shares for sale on 5/8 and immediately takes advantage of the mania that is fueling the rise in share price by selling shares in blocks of 10,000 and 20,000 shares on the open market. Pushing share price down in the process by flooding the float with over 6.000,000 shares over the next few ensuing weeks. Pocketing a cool $2.5 million profit on a best guess estimate of an average sale price in the mid 50 cent range.

Which scenario best fits the evidence?

Is it important whether or not Mr.Gordon is telling the truth?..Does it make a difference if he did sell his shares into the float on the open market?......Most certainly it does!

If Mr. Gordon sold 6,480,000 shares on the open market once ....he is likely to do it again. Based on the 6/25 S-8 filing Mr. Gordon is eligible to sell an additional 7,520,000 shares. He is allowed to sell them into the float if he chooses to do so. Has he done so?

Was it just by coincidence that the website mysteriously appeared and the information regarding it was communicated to the thread?..Certainly such a major event of the unveiling of such an impressive and promising site was certain to drive up share price during the speculative mania that would no doubt ensue......Such did prove to be the case.........However a similar pattern emerged. A seemingly unexplainable sell off in the face of wild exuberance. Could this have been the clever Mr. Gordon at work....once again manipulating news and events for his own gain at the expense of the investing public?..........Judge for yourself.

Of course we would not need to make such a judgement if Mr. Gordon would see to it that the SEC form 13D is promptly filed verifying his claims as true......Also, since the qtr. has ended Mr. Gordon could make disclosure prior to the next 10Q filing of the amount of the outstanding loan that TSIG owes Mr. Gordon on 6/30.

Proof of the truthfulness of his claims squarely rests on his own shoulder's......Mr. Gordon, we are waiting!

Marty, My next post will deal with Mr. Gordon's claims regarding his involvement with "Phoenix" and it's recent bankrupcy. Information that you will find to be very interesting, as well as at odds with Mr. Gordon's statements and claims.

Best Regards, JAB



To: V$gas.Com who wrote (30423)6/7/1999 9:24:00 AM
From: The Swordsman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 44908
 
The past will always teach about the future. More detail and another Conference Call. I wonder how many shares were unloaded into that informal PR? You've got to read these if you're really serious about your money.

Message 5401488

To: gambler (3075 )
From: JEFF BERRY Tuesday, Aug 4 1998 12:34AM ET
Reply # of 30428

Gambler, Thanks for setting up the CC.

I will be traveling on Wednesday. Due to the uncertainty of my schedule I will post additional areas of concern that I hope will find time for address during the CC.
I will also send you my E-mail address so as to be added to the CC list, as I will attempt to arrange my affairs, if at all possible, so as to participate on Wed.

Gambler, During your CC with Mr Gordon on 6/30/98, Mr Gordon made statements regarding his recent sale of 6,480,000 common shares of TSIG. (Post #1594)

Message 5066597

While you were away, I challenged the accuracy of Mr. Gordon's claims regarding the sale of his shares. (post # 1990 & # 2650)

Message 5188398

Message 5272073

The issues that were raised in the above two posts have yet to be addressed. Additionally, the SEC filing that would be neccessary to validate the truthfulness of Mr. Gordon's claims has yet to be filed....A filing that under SEC law is required.....if Mr.Gordon's claims are indeed true.

Concern regarding the selling of such a substantial number of shares by the CEO is indeed a matter of concern for any investor.

But in the case of TSIG and CEO Mr. Rob Gordon, concern is especially heightened in view of Mr. Gordon's role in the recently bankrupt Phoenix Information Systems (a company founded, controlled and influenced by Mr. Gordon) and the sale of virtually all shares owned and controlled by Mr. Gordon just prior to Phoenix's demise.

During the 6/30 CC, Mr Gordon that he had resigned as CEO of Phoenix "Nov. 2 years ago" and that his "only remaining role at that point was a position on the board"
Mr. Gordon, deflected all responsibility for the failure of Phoenix, saddling all responsibility on the new management team.

However, the public record paints an entirely different picture then the one portrayed by Mr. Gordon.

Background:

Phoenix was founded by Mr Gordon in 1986. The Phoenix business model was surprisingly quite similar to that of TSIG's. Phoenix provided reservation and call center operations, servicing the travel and tourism industry.

Phoenix and TSIG have many other similarities. Most notably, the lack of revenues and huge ongoing losses.

The 3/31/97 annual report comments: "Phoenix has not generated any significant revenues, earnings or history of operations from inception through March 31, 1997. Consequently,Phoenix's continued existence has depended primarily upon its ability to raise capital."

For the 12 month's ending 3/31:

.. Revenues Losses

1997.......................$1,135,368.........<$12,393,872>

1996.......................$770,535...........<$9,704,318>

1995.......................$289,645...........<$4,841,828>

Accumulated deficit: as of 3/31/97 ........<$32,373,968>

The 3/31/97 report goes on to state:

"Although management believes material progress has been achieved
toward acquiring the necessary funding to meet the Company's existing
obligations as well as contemplated capital requirements, as of the date of this filing substantial additional financial capital is required and, consequently,there is substantial doubt concerning the Company's ability to continue as agoing concern."

The above represents a true picture of Phoenix's state of affairs as of 3/31/97. A picture quite different then the one painted by Mr. Gordon during the 6/30 CC.

Under the leadership of Mr. Gordon as long time CEO and COB Phoenix was on the verge of extinction.

According to the 8-K filed 3/11/98: "In early 1997, the Phoenix Board replaced the company's management. The new management prepared a revised business plan that pushed back the date when the joint venture's software would be up and running an additional nine months
or a year, to March or June of 1998. The company then went back to raise cash. During the period from May of 1993 through December of 1996, the company had raised (and spent) approximately $39,000,000."

Why did the board move to replace the existing management, including the CEO, Mr. Gordon?.....It's safe to say that the decision was made, not because of the good job they were doing!

The first addition to the new management team was on 2/10/97. The press release issued 2/11/97 stated:

"Mr Delbert f. Bloss has been appointed Chief executive officer effective 2/10/97. As CEO Mr Bloss will oversee all daily operatios, including marketing,sales,financial and administrative matters. Mr Robert P. Gordon, Phoenix's Chairman, will remain actively involved in the Company and will continue to direct the company's long term strategic plan."

Thus, although Phoenix did act to replace Mr. Gordon as CEO, Mr. Gordon remained actively involved in the company as COB, responsible for continuing to direct the Company's long term strategic plan.
In fact, Mr. Gordon's active role in the Company is validated by virtue of the salary increase that Mr. Gordon was granted on 1/28/97, increasing his base salary from $180,000 a year to $204,000 per year.

The 8-K of 3/11/98 continues:

"The Board hired an investment banking firm, Benedetto Gartland, to assistthem in raising funds. Benedetto Gartland management and Board members made extensive efforts to locate new sources of funds. They sought to have the company's stock listed on the American Stock Exchange or NASDAQ, but were unsuccessful. They approached China Southern, potential partners such as EDS,Kemp Gemini, IBE, and Siemens, institutional investors such as AIG, Deutsche Bank,Hambrecht & Quist, Schroeder Capital Partners, Peregrine Direct Investments, Walden Group, Barton Capital, Furman Selz, and wealthy families
in the U.S., Europe and Asia, all without success."

Of the 39 million that had been raised and spent between 93-96 due to Mr. Gordon's deal making prowess, the majority, 34 million was contributed by two noteworthy investment groups headed by Mr Soros and the Hunt family.
However, both Soros and Hunt declined further investment in Mr. Gordon's company, refusing to perpetuate the existence of Phoenix, "on life support", by throwing good money after bad.

The S-8 continues: "Phoenix was running out of cash and in January of 1998 would have to pay an additional $1,800,000 into the joint venture. Once more the Board attempted to raise cash from institutional investors. This time a special committee established by the Board contacted over thirty firms, without success."

On 12/3/97 Phoenix files for bankruptcy....A very unfortunate event for the common shareholder.

In the Spring of 97, during the time that the new management team was being assembled, hopes were running high on the part of the common shareholder. After all, "Why would so many talented and skilled professional's join Phoenix, if it were a sinking ship?" (reasoning that is often used on the TSIG thread as well) However, enthusiasm was soon replaced with despair, as Phoenix's life comes to sudden an unexpected stop.....just a few short months later.

Did Phoenix fail due to incompetency on the part of the new management team?

Notice the comment contained in the 9/30/97 Quarterly report, reflecting 6 months of the new management team's efforts:

"For the six months ended September 30, 1997 net cash used in operations declined by $1,643,379 or 32% from the six months ended September 30, 1996, principally due to lower losses"

Questions for consideration:

a)Does Mr. Gordon sugar coat his role in the failure of Phoenix by suggesting that he had nothing to do with it's demise?

b)Is it reasonable to conclude that Mr Bloss and the new management team, a team that was touted as the brightest of the bright, a team that substantially reduced losses and cash consumption, a team with a tenure of just a few short months, was completely responsible for running Phoenix into the ground?

c)Does it make sense that Mr. Gordon, Chairman of the board, drawing an increased salary, responsible for directing the long range stategic plan would allow himself to be "cut out of the loop"?

It does if you believe Mr. Gordon.

Where was Phoenix located?....Was it perhaps in some far away remote location providing difficult access for Mr. Gordon the COB to stay in touch? Not hardly! Notice the proximity.

Phoenix address: 100 Second ave. South, Suite 1100
St. Petersburg Fl.

TSIG's address: 100 Second ave. South, Suite 1000
St. Petersburg Fl.

Mr. Gordon claims to spend 80 hours a week at TSIG and yet claims that as COB of Phoenix, with a highly responsible salaried position, was cut out of the loop from a company located within his own eyesight and earshot?

Can we truly accept that Mr. Gordon would accept a $204,000 salary, charged with the responsibility of the ultimate long term strategic success of Phoenix, possessing the most powerful position in the company, with authority as COB to direct the hiring, firing, and pay of management personnel, and yet makes weak claims such as:

"I was cut out of the loop" "It was not my fault"

Such claims are entirely unacceptable from a person in Mr. Gordon's authoritative position!

To accept Mr. Gordon's claim of faultlessness in the Phoenix folly is equivalent to claiming that Mr. Gordon would be completely faultless if TSIG were to file bankruptcy in the near future, due to failure to raise sustaining capital.

Would it be reasonable to conclude the the fault for such a failure of TSIG would be solely that of the new management team?

....It is if you believe Mr. Gordon.

The foregoing background is a prelude to a series of questions directed to Mr. Gordon regarding the sale of virtually all of his Phoenix shares just prior to Phoenix going under.

Questions that are of utmost importance to all TSIG investors, as it relates to Mr. Gordon's recent sale of 6,480,000 TSIG shares, and his ongoing filing authorization to sell another 7,520,000 shares of TSIG common stock.

Questions that raise considerable doubt as to Mr. Gordon's ability to overcome the past, so as to complete the PP that is desperately needed to sustain TSIG from following the path of Phoenix.

I will address those issues, concerns and questions in a post sometime tomorrow.

Best Regards, JAB




To: V$gas.Com who wrote (30423)6/7/1999 10:22:00 AM
From: Fred Thornell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 44908
 
JUST TALKED TO Paul Tennola from SIGNATURE. Entire conversation was upbeat. Only problem with deal is main frame of Mexican Bank, even then it is minor. Paul says he is confident this deal will roll in the next two weeks!! Paul also seemed excited about future plans to take the program to Signatures other customers as soon as some success happens (he mentioned Chase). One more thing, I think I read people pretty well and I can tell you that this guy is really upbeat when it comes to TSIG, he mentioned several times something about how well the company is doing thier part, professionalism, etc. etc..

"VIPER" "TEN FEET TALL and SWORD PROOF"