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Strategies & Market Trends : DAYTRADING Fundamentals -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Eric P who wrote (199)6/7/1999 8:15:00 PM
From: ig  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18137
 
How about some ideas on keyboarding in RT3?

I tend to use my keyboard only for typing in ticker symbols; I use the mouse for just about everything else -- dialing in the price, clicking the buy/sell button, etc. I think I'm pretty fast for a mouse-user, but I know it's got be faster to use a keyboard to place orders, especially if one uses HotKeys. (Same as macros?)

I guess I stick with the mouse because it seems safer. I'm sort of afraid of hitting a wrong key or dropping the keyboard and thereby unintentionally getting myself into a horrible trade.

I'd really appreciate reading some thoughts on this.

ig

(PS: Earlier, Eric mentioned using TEST to practice these things. I'm looking forward to trying that out!)



To: Eric P who wrote (199)6/7/1999 8:46:00 PM
From: Don Pueblo  Respond to of 18137
 
If anyone ever has a question about a word or a definition or a technical term, or a question about the stock market and how it works, or anything remotely connected to stocks, they don't have to leave SI to search.

This thread is not a chat thread, it is only for reference.

If I need to find it fast, I just search SI for 'FAQ', and I'm there.

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To: Eric P who wrote (199)6/7/1999 9:38:00 PM
From: KM  Respond to of 18137
 
How about premarket and aftermarket trading? I like doing that a lot. For instance, today, I completed a roundtrip in the premarket on TSCM for 3 points before the market opened. I like to short in the premarket a lot too.

Same thing with the aftermarket. I was holding a quarter position on Dell through earnings. When I saw the aftermarket bid drop two points, I hit it immediately and exited, saving myself 2 plus on the downside the next day.

But there are pitfalls for sure in premarket trading. For instance, this morning, RMBS had a nice upgrade from Morgan Stanley with an incendiary upside target. Immediately, people were buying in the premarket for 81 plus. The stock never traded at that level during the day so they all got hosed. Sometimes, you can't buy the news stories in the premarket. I figure half the time, if you see INCA on the bid well up, that's about the high you're going to see for the day because they're selling it lower on the other side to buyers sucked in by the high bid.

I also gauge whether to play premarket by the involvement of other daytraders; i.e., ISLD or ARCA bids. I'm a lot more confident if I see them.

Anyone, your experiences with this?



To: Eric P who wrote (199)6/7/1999 10:27:00 PM
From: KM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18137
 
I'd also like to hear about how people prepare for the trading day. Do you just sit down and hit anything that moves? Do you have scans with high probability plays for the next day?

I spend hours in the evening looking at charts, news stories, earnings reports, etc. looking for plays for the next day. This really is a full time job - but a fun one.

P.S. Alan, I've created market minder windows on RTIII which contain the seven bells, each with its own window.



To: Eric P who wrote (199)6/7/1999 11:36:00 PM
From: sherry  Respond to of 18137
 
On the subject of Brokers.....

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Sherry



To: Eric P who wrote (199)6/8/1999 3:13:00 AM
From: -  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 18137
 
THE EQUITY CURVE -- P O W E R F U L F E E D B A C K

Here's a technique that's simple to implement, but which can be very powerful: simply log your net account equity into a spreadsheet every evening after the close, and plot it as a simple barchart. If you make deposits or withdrawals, factor them out; just track your trading gains or losses from the starting point. There are many possible refinements to this, but the key idea is to plot your account value, marked-to-market if you carry things overnight, each evening and to plot / monitor it carefully, on a regular basis.

If you use an Excel workbook file to do this, take note that you can easily store an entire year's trading days into a workbook at one trading day per worksheet (tab), with rollup (summary) sheets and charts on their own pages (worksheets). An Excel workbook can easily hold over 500 worksheets, each of which might represent a separate day of trading (like the Excel files that RT III generates for you on your disk). It is easy to link data from an individual worksheet, to a rollup sheeet.

But if you're not using Excel, or want to keep this easy, it can be as simple as entering a single number into a worksheet every evening, and creating a bar chart of the resulting data series.

What you will be looking at on the bar chart is: your trading performance, good or bad, in black and white. The result of looking at this every day, can be much more powerful than you might expect. First, on a conscious level, it forces you to think about the true ramifications of your trades and trading techniques. More powerfully, it will motivate you sub-consciously towards success, and provide an early warning when you start to slip, as all traders do periodically.

After you become familiar with this, in order to gain further advantage from this technique, I have found it helpful to set weekly and monthly goals for the equity curve (making allowances for the current market environment), and working towards them. You will feel the "pressure", but you will find yourself building equity quicker, than if you try to operate open-loop. It will also help you guard against getting "lazy", after periods of high-intensity, successful trading. And if you hit a rough spot, you will catch it more quickly. You might find yourself making profits more quickly and consistently, and taking more vacation every year. This is the ONLY reason I am so fond of this technique!

This is the single, most powerful technique I can offer a fellow trader. Try it, and you'll see what I mean (although I'm not sure it would work for every trader). I would warn that it's harder to keep up with this on a regular basis, than it sounds like it might be... but well worth the effort, in my experience.

Good trading - Steve



To: Eric P who wrote (199)6/8/1999 3:22:00 PM
From: -  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 18137
 
TRADING STOCKS USING MULTIPLE TIMEFRAMES; USING INDICATORS

One of the most fundamental techniques I have learned beneficial for daytrading stocks is to learn to watch an issue simultaneously in multiple timeframes. Many seasoned, successful stock traders have learned to do this. The day chart is the most important to fully understand and monitor. Before I enter a trade off of an intraday chart (or Level II action; usually it's a hybrid) I will look at the day chart (in reference to the past 3-5 days) and ask myself if I still want to enter. When trading stocks intraday (even for scalps), I watch the 30min, 5min, and 1min charts (occasionally a tick-chart, but less in the past couple of years as I've integrated Level II). The best setup is to have a screen with daychart, 30/5/1 min charts, all on the same screen. I do display volume on every timeframe and consider understanding volume in relation to price to be extremely important to stock-trading success (another topic).

On each chart, I run a 10, 20, 40, and 50-period Moving Average. As Linda Raschke says "always watch price relative to something else". The best "something else", is the MA. It represents a normalized reference point. So, when a stock is a certain % away from a given moving average, it tells you a lot. You learn more, that's repeatable that way. For example, when a stock gets out in front of it's 10-period moving average (although it may stay extended for a while), it is inevitably much more vulnerable to pullbacks. Universally - it applies on the day-chart, and intraday (intraday, for smaller pullbacks). When you're watching stocks on multiple timeframes, the higher timeframes "filter out the noise" and provide you with greater perspective, leading you to trade in the right direction, and to always be aware of the trend.

Beside the moving averages, I don't believe in most indicators (believe me, I've tried them all). If you study the math, most of them are strictly derived from the price action, so why not just watch that? Sometimes they can just unwittingly provide you an excuse for not really understanding price action - a search for the magic elixir. I do find value, for longer-term trading/investing, in some of the indicators which factor in volume, such as on-balance volume. MACD is a nice indicator for longer-term trades as well, it's just a hybrid of averaged moving averages. And some of the price indicators like Commmodity Channel Index and the Stochastics, prove more useful than price itself to some traders, in catching price reversals; but I prefer price itself. Certainly, they are very useful if you are writing automated stock-trading systems, since they are normalized making them amenable to software-generated entry and exit "signals".

I didn't fully appreciate the broad applicability of watching a security using multiple timeframes, until about five years ago studying Walter Bressert's (the master of using "cycles" to trade commodities) materials, and taking his seminars several times over a couple of years. It wasn't clear to me at first how important this is. For example, why watch a 30-min chart, when you could just crunch up a 5-min chart? That's not the right approach, to get the value out of watching multiple time frames. The trader looking to benefit from this, should always run his/her charts with the same spacing between bars (whatever you can use, and still study each bar carefully), then you'll have a "periscope" system that works across different time frames.

Good trading, -Steve



To: Eric P who wrote (199)6/9/1999 2:50:00 AM
From: -  Read Replies (9) | Respond to of 18137
 
THE LOSER'S SPIRAL - THE DARK SIDE OF TRADING

All of us, as trader's normally sense that trading can become "dangerous", if you let it get out of control when it's not going well. It can indeed be a rather dangerous (risky) endeavor, financially speaking. A friend of mine, after trading marginally successfully for a few months, said to me "man, I sense this is really dangerous - I could get into a lot of trouble here". He was right. There is one basic process that destroys almost everyone that "blows out" of trading; I call it "the loser's spiral". I know all about it, as I went through it myself several times, in the process of really learning how to trade more consistently. Only extreme interest in trading, and perseverance through travails got me through this one! I've never met a good trader who hasn't been through grappling with this, either. As they say, "you must learn how to lose, before you can win". It is "the filter", which keeps most away from full-time, long-term trading success.

It goes something like this (simplified, for brevity). Trader makes a little bit of money. Skills develop. Trader makes a lot of money. Takes bigger risks. Things going well. Then...Wham! Big loss. Wham! Bigger loss. Trader tries to "make back" loss by taking bigger risks... and so on. The spiral is self-perpetuating.

Think that won't happen to you? Well, it happens to 80%+ of beginning traders within six to nine months (mileage varies, depending upon prevailing market conditions). It happens to a lot of intermediate traders, and experienced traders. It happens to world-class traders who run huge hedge funds, and it happens to people that have written scholarly books (Victor N.) and who are geniuses. So don't think it can't happen to you - it will, unless you study the mathematics of money management, and carefully calculate how much you can risk, versus your total tradeable capital. The statistics are overwhelmingly against you, if you violate the cardinal rules (generally, if you are risking more than 1-5% per trade, depending upon your trading style). For those with higher net worth, more tolerance for risk, or a longer time frame, (usually a combination of these factors) the parameters are different. But the basic idea is, if you are trading too "large" (of risk on each trade), sooner or later it will destroy you and blow you out of the game - probably, sooner rather than later.

Picture the trading process as a vortex that you are swimming in. If you trade properly and exercise good money management, you can create enough centrifical momentum to avoid the inevitable "flush down the drain". After a while, it will become a habit, and you will be able to routinely stay out of trouble (see my post on Equity Curve - an "early warning system"). But the forces of the vortex are always there, ready and lurking. This is truly the dark side of trading, which is always there. If you let your greed get the better of you, it will take over. And for any trader who has experienced the "high" of a big trade, the lure is always there to pull you away from your discipline.

What causes a trader to enter into "the loser's spiral"? For most, it can be identified as simply to trading too big relative to their account size, trading without stops, and/or riding positions down. Losses overwhelm gains, then the trader tries to trade his way out, quickly, often while not taking the true market environment into account before taking positions. Good traders are out of the market more than they are in, and they trade selectively.

Only the minority know how to avoid this vortex, in my experience. Think about it, before you commit to a trading (vs. investing) style... investors are less susceptible to this ever-lurking, rarely-discussed problem, which is the biggest potential pitfall traders must face, IMO. The shorter the time frame of your trading, the more difficult the trading process becomes. The rate of return also becomes higher; however the risks become higher as well. So daytraders are particularly susceptible.

Good trading, -Steve