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To: truedog who wrote (11575)	6/14/1999 5:33:00 AM
From: MNI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

truedog: I do not, and cannot trust William Jefferson Clinton, a selfish, coward, manipulative man. [...] This man does not have the moral authority to order ground troops into battle. He knows it, his allies know it, and his enemies know it. (JBL) Thanks for your reply. I think the above made statement applies all so much to our Chancellor Mr. Schroeder as well, except he seems to be one ally who doesn't know. There was nearly no public discussion on the Kosovo matter in Germany, it was just: We have to, and we will, join our American and European allies. He took our media and public by surprise, and no discussion whatsoever started on the Kosovo affairs before three weeks of bombardment were over. The beauty of it is that the American public was made believe the Germans incensed American action, while the Germans were made to think WE follow YOU. But not only in this matter, in anything our Chancellor does, he is going in a most superficial way, normally not giving any reasons for his plans at all. And in each field, including internal affairs, White House Public Relations are used instead of founded discussion from a standpoint founded with local sources. Also during his campaign 9 months ago he used some characteristic features of Clinton (relative youth, attractive looks, ...) projected on himself against the old man (Kohl). (Who shouldn't have gone on either.) The below-mentioned-point of JBL makes me so crazy about the Kosovo war, and the German participation in it that I will not stop going on about it. The Kosovo war was an immoral and innefective war, which had to be waged from the air only, on civilians as much as on the military, and which produced a humanitarian disaster and an impossible peace, ... (still JBL) The reason for my mentioning of the poor preparation of the German troops for any fighting mission was not so much my concern about German lifes, but the firm anticipation that those soldiers won't do good in this matter even if they met the best conceivable conditions (=> ineffectiveness = waste of lifes). But that point was not considered at all. Those two German journalists - it was largely their own fault of course. They shouldn't have been there, alone, without anybody who covers them. But it is quite probable that they were taken as a revenge for those two Amok-type snipers killed by German "elite" troops in Prizren, ... who didn't know when to stop shooting after the raid was over. Anyway I think I should not play up to be a judge on the soldiers, I wouldn't dare to do what they do. But the judgement on the politicians should go untouched. When you wrote: The bailing of butts out of the fire bit, should have been directed at the British and French. Sadly, Germany was on the other side of the battle lines. I think the Germans fit your criterion just as much; and nearly all Germans (even among those 1-2% who adhere to NAZI or alike stuff) are still happy that it was the Americans on that side. And we won't identify with German WW II troops anyway, rather with the American and British liberators' troops. (The Russians don't qualify so much, ...) Also surely nearly nobody takes pride in our current German army ! (i.e. apart from the above-mentioned fringe groups). Regards MNI