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To: E. Davies who wrote (11044)6/11/1999 4:38:00 PM
From: David Harker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 29970
 
>How do you think my.yahoo pays for itself? You know of course it
>pays for itself by advertising. If advertising fails yahoo! fails.
>How do you think AOL pays for itself? You think the $10/mo...

We have different definitions of "fulfilling the promise" (of the
Internet). I used the internet before anyone advertised on it,
and before the general public knew about it (late 1980s). I will
still use it in the future even if no one advertises on it.
In that sense, it is 'fulfilling the promise' to me - it is
useable and fast, in my home.

Sure, Yahoo or any other web site may fail financially. Not all
web sites try to make money, yahoo started from two CS grad
students linking sites they liked into a huge directory. I used
it then, and liked it. It made no money, and had no intention of
making money. If yahoo fails, others will come along. SI started
the same way, I paid no money to join, it was free then - we
were "grandfathered in" when they started to charge money.
My point is the sharp distinction I find between
my enjoyment/use of the internet, and my willingness to invest
in any company who makes most of their money thru internet ad
revenues. There will always be interesting sites on the web,
regardless of whether they make money or not - new sites come along
every day.

>If yahoo and all others like it fail what happens to the usage
>of the net?

I don't care. I enjoyed USENET newsgroups before 'the net'
existed. I still use them, and that will continue - esp. for
research on products to buy/not buy.

>You cannot simply avoid those things that rely on advertising,
>the whole net as we know it will come crashing down with it.

I CAN avoid investing in them, and I CAN ignore the ads on the
sites I use. I don't avoid sites that have ads, I ignore the
ads. My wife and I also have several TV shows we regularly watch,
and we nearly always do so using tape-delay, purely so we can
use "commercial skip" button on VCR, we can watch a 1-hr show
in 45 minutes. Same principle. The ads are there, but ignored.
I mainly listen to public radio. It's a philosophy, I guess,
I find ads annoying and intrusive, except, of course, for the
super bowl! :-)

PS - I also hang up on "cold call" telemarketers!



To: E. Davies who wrote (11044)6/11/1999 4:55:00 PM
From: Herb Blair  Respond to of 29970
 
You know guys I have a little program called Atguard that I got from www.atguard.com that blocks all the adds and banners and allows the pages to load faster.