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To: Brian Malloy who wrote (83270)6/11/1999 9:00:00 PM
From: puborectalis  Respond to of 186894
 

Daily news for semiconductor industry managers

Intel not ruling out plan to support
PC133 SDRAM, says Barrett

A service of Semiconductor Business News, CMP Media Inc.
Story posted 6:30 p.m. EST/3:30 p.m., PST, 6/11/99

By Jack Robertson

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- Intel Corp. is not ruling out a
contingency plan to support PC133 SDRAM if the new memory
interface becomes the prevailing technology in the market, according
to company president and CEO Craig R. Barrett.

At the same time, Intel is blocking a rival from marketing a chip set
that would support the memory interface.

While Intel has disclosed no plans to field its own
PC133-compatible chip sets, "if it happens that PC133 becomes a
preferred choice, Intel has lots of options for [creating] new memory
bus lines in chip sets," Barrett said in an interview with EBN.

For months, the industry has speculated that Intel would add PC133
support in the event the new memory technology gains market
acceptance, and Barrett's disclosure comes as the first hint that Intel
might consider the interface. Intel's official roadmap still bypasses
PC133, moving directly from PC100 SDRAM to Direct Rambus
DRAM later this year.

Meanwhile, Intel sent a letter to a number of customers informing
them that chip sets designed by Via Technologies Inc. using Intel's
133-MHz microprocessor bus violate terms of a license signed last
fall by Intel and Via. The letter--which, oddly enough, was
co-written by Via--pulls the rug out from under the Fremont, Calif.,
company's new Apollo Pro133 chip set, which features a 133-MHz
frontside processor bus and support for the PC133 memory
interface.

In the letter, which was obtained by EBN, Intel said it would not
ask Via to recall the sample chip sets containing the 133-MHz
frontside bus, but Intel "does not agree to any more of these
samples being made or delivered" to customers.

Via stated in the letter that "it hopes that these steps will
address any confusion that its sales and marketing efforts may
have caused," and that it will "demonstrate the value of Via's
products when it is appropriate to do so." Via could not be
reached for additional comment.

While the licensing squabble and Barrett's comments raise
questions, they shed little new light on the specifics of Intel's
long-term main-memory plans.

Though he acknowledged the existence of what he called
"contingency options," Barrett reaffirmed Intel's commitment
to Direct Rambus DRAM as the industry's standard memory for
next-generation PCs. And despite evidence pointing to a
staggered introduction of the Camino chip set, Barrett said he
expects Direct RDRAM and a corresponding Camino core-logic
device to be unveiled in September (see today's story).

As Direct RDRAM tracks into the market, component suppliers
and PC makers alike believe it will initially serve high-end PC
and workstation segments--systems generally defined as costing
upwards of $1,500, and often more than $2,500. When they are
introduced, Direct Rambus chips should carry a significant
price premium over PC133 SDRAMs due to the fact that
Rambus dice are as much as 25% larger, and because of the
higher test and packaging costs associated with the new
architecture.

PC133 is a follow-on to the PC100 SDRAM used in most PCs
today. Because of its more evolutionary architecture, PC133 is
expected to appear in a number of low-end systems.

Nevertheless, executives from Intel and from RDRAM's
designer, Rambus Inc. of Mountain View, Calif., said Rambus'
higher overall performance will put the technology in a class by
itself, and added that much of the early cost overhead will
dissipate once Rambus chips enter volume production.

"PC133 may or may not gain acceptance in mainstream PCs,
but it's not a competitor to Rambus as far as we're concerned,"
said Geoff Tate, Rambus' president and CEO, speaking at an
investment conference last week in San Francisco. "Even if it's
33% faster [than PC100 SDRAM], it's only a third as fast as
Rambus."

However, Barrett said, if demand for PC133 is strong, Intel has
the wherewithal to add support for the chip--in addition to
backing Direct RDRAM. According to observers, Intel can, if it
chooses to, simply adapt the industry's PC133 open standard.
The standard and associated chip set specs were drafted by a
broad-based industry group, including IBM Microelectronics,
which worked with Intel to develop the original PC100
standard.

Barrett also confirmed industry reports that new versions of the
810 chip set family could be used to support PC133. "That's
only one of many options," he said. "There are all sorts of
memory-bus-line approaches."

According to specifications released by Intel, the 810 core-logic
chip set integrates the Intel i752 graphics core. As a separate
discrete graphics chip, the i752 is the first Intel product to
support a 133-MHz SDRAM frame buffer. But when integrated
into the 810 chip set as a graphics core, the i752 doesn't have
its own port to memory, meaning that it must connect through
the 810's slower PC100 SDRAM interface.

However, analyst Robert Merritt of Semico Research Corp., in
Phoenix, said that in a future 810 chip set, Intel could offer
PC133 memory support simply by activating an i752 port to
the faster interface.

"It's easy to see an Intel migration in the 810 chip set to
PC133," said Brian Folsom, member of the technical staff of
chip set developer Poseidon Technology Inc. of San Jose.

What's more, Intel this fall is expected to unveil a new version
of the 810 chip set, the so-called 810e, which will add a
133-MHz frontside processor bus line and set up the possibility
of adding a memory bus for PC133 SDRAMs, analysts said.

Intel for the first time this week confirmed the existence of the
810e and the 133-MHz frontside bus, but stressed that the new
device will support only PC100 SDRAM.

Yet several of Taiwan's motherboard vendors said recently that
their analysis of the 810e indicates the chip set is
PC133-compatible. "Intel's denial that the 810e won't support
PC133 is a policy issue but not a spec issue," said an executive
at one of the island's largest board makers. "The chip set does
support PC133."

Intel's 810e scenario also sets up a curious clocking mismatch
between the 133-MHz frontside bus and the 100-MHz memory
that fails to take full advantage of the higher MPU bus speed.
In fact, in an integrated core-logic/graphics chip set such as the
810 family, the higher-speed PC133 interface would offer
1.06-gigabyte/s bandwidth, compared with only 800 megabytes
per second for PC100, according to Semico's Merritt.

This clock mismatch opens a window of opportunity for
third-party chip set vendors able to pair the faster 133-MHz
frontside bus and PC133 memory, observers said. It's an
opportunity that Via intends to exploit, and could explain why
Intel used its clout to get the company to inform customers of
the purported license violation.

The Intel spokesman would not comment on the contents of the
letter it co-authored with Via, other than to say that it
"addressed the confusion concerning the licensing agreement
Via and ourselves signed last November."

According to reports, the letter was issued not long after Intel
filed a lawsuit against Via charging the company with breach
of contract. Intel retracted the suit the same day and said it had
been filed in error. However, industry observers and Via itself
believe the action was designed to intimidate third-party chip
set suppliers. Intel denies the allegations.

"The implication was that it was about [the] 133-MHz [bus],
which I believe," said Peter Glaskowsky, an analyst with
MicroDesign Resources in Sebastopol, Calif.

"There's no way that taking a licensed [component] and
running it at a faster 133-MHz speed should mean that all of a
sudden it's not licensed," he said. "But if there's something in
the Intel technology [Via is] not complying with, then ... Intel
has the right to make sure [the chip set] works with its
microprocessors."

Industry observers speculated that Intel could have two motives
for trying to bar Via from entering the PC133 market: Intel
wants to make sure it gets there first, or it wants to derail
potential competitors to Direct RDRAM. -- Additional reporting
by Mark Hachman, Andrew MacLellan, and Sandy Chen.


All material on this site Copyright © 1999 CMP Media Inc. All rights
reserved.

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To: Brian Malloy who wrote (83270)6/12/1999 10:31:00 AM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 186894
 
Brian - Re: "SUNW consistently gets a free ride while INTC and MSFT are always under the microscope."

We have the unbiased, fair PRESS to thank for that - CMP, CNET and those other whinies.

Re: ", I looked at the market's knee jerk reaction as a buying opportunity on EBAY and grabbed some shares and options."

Good luck on that EBAY purchase - hope you got it at the low for the day.

Paul