To: Investor2 who wrote (1761 ) 6/12/1999 6:52:00 PM From: Step1 Respond to of 3536
Investor2, I think it is too early to be talking about a consensus for the simple reason that these numbers were largely unexpected and that they didn't allow a consensus to form yet. I suspect I will now be in the minority as some euphoria sweeps people into the bullish camp. I posted generally negative points, I will stay negative until I see a reason to change, so far I think that major changes have not happened. If the Japanese public and Japan escape with only the limited amount of damage we have seen so far, then they can count themselves lucky. The stock market always tries to anticipate news 6 months to a year ahead, and while I have no doubt that at one point Japanese businesses will at some point be profitable and growing, I think we may still see some stumble between now and that time; in simple words I am short-term (days to weeks) bullish, bearish later in the summer and fall and long term still undecided, lack of information , too many things that need to happen in the future may not be foretold yet, but nevertheless, at some point, no matter how dire the situation gets, things always work themselves out, so I will eventually have to turn bullish. Essentially I propose that a recovery now would spare Japan from the kind of real destructive creation needed to flush the system and start on a more solid base. I don't think the pain has been deeply felt enough to really do away with the old ways. Anything from the government,like anywhere else, has to be taken with a grain of salt. The much talked about cut backs and slimming down of the government machine is all but fake mirrors for example. Government employee payrolls are going up not down , partly because of high unemployment and the need to keep hiring to do "its share" but also because there is noway to lay-off the workers (an always difficult problem when it comes to public employees). Therefore, even as the gov restructure its ministries cutting from 21 to 11, merging and abolishing along the way, public employees are just reassigned to other newly created or renamed or otherwise old ministries. There is no way out of it. Anyway, I will stop here because the rest really belongs to the Japan thread and not this fine currency one, but would certainly appreciate comments on macro economic factors as well as money flows from a global perspective (treasuries and repatriation of funds to Japan, Yen carry trade) from some of the more seasoned posters on this thread to give us a monetary angle. yours sincerely Stephan Gilbert