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To: Grainne who wrote (40307)	6/13/1999 12:31:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Nothing simpler! Restrict longevity treatment to those who can pay cash! <ducking> <cackling>

To: Grainne who wrote (40307)	6/14/1999 2:54:00 AM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Christine, the low calorie diet buys maybe 20 years of extended life. It hasn't been proven yet. Gene alteration will probably give hundreds of additional years. The world population problem is caused by irresponsible people. I chose to have one child years ago. I bet you wouldn't be chastising me if I had 4 kids, you would be calling me a warm nurturing papa. As a result of the tyranny of evolution, we are genetically programmed to reproduce and then die after we raised our offspring to do the same. If you choose to take that "natural" route I wouldn't want to interfere. Likewise I wouldn't want you to interfere with my choice if I choose to live longer. The world could support many more people safely if we live a lifestyle that has less impact on the Earth. That means building very efficient housing that lasts for hundreds of years and using nuclear power for our main energy source instead of fossil fuels. We should be cutting back on our driving by at least 50%, and be using efficient electric cars.

To: Grainne who wrote (40307)	6/14/1999 3:16:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

It's quite all right for Del to live two hundred years. If he creates more value than he consumes, leaves something good he built behind (a house, a poem, a scientific fact, a good strong child) to justify his presence here. The problem is that too many of us simply degrade energy and don't create net human or physical capital. Some day we're going to the stars. We need more knowledge than we have, and everyone should strive to add to the knowledge. We need more wealth to finance the trip and to educate ourselves. Men like Carnegie and Rockfeller have piled up wealth which has advanced knowledge and fed the poor and converted the world into a more productive more long-lived place. I can't think of anything John D. Rockefellar said worth remembering, but Andrew Carnegie said it was a shame for a man to die rich, and gave libraries, scientific foundations, and peace institutes away. Mr. and Mrs. Gates just gave another $5 million to their foundation. Now that eventually may justify a crime as wide open as Windows.