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To: Machaon who wrote (11951)	6/14/1999 6:54:00 PM
From: truedog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

to: Robert Barry from: truedog Re: victory I will go along with you about the humanitarian aspects of this conflict and feel that all humans should be resolved to help others, as long as they can not help themselves. I do not call bombing an adversary into capitulation a victory.The main reason is because it ain't over yet. A limited shooting war has already begun in the middle of the, so called, peacekeeping efforts and will, in all probability, escalate. Then, American ground troops will begin to die. Can anyone justify this? I not only can't, I won't. This has been no more of a victory here than the gulf war. The UN forced stormin' Norman to stop before the snake had been pulled from his den and dispensed with. Rest assured that he will again rear his ugly head as will Slovo. I am not a prophet but, mark my words. Regards, truedog

To: Machaon who wrote (11951)	6/14/1999 9:13:00 PM
From: JBL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

This conflict was started with the objectives of promoting peace, and humanitarian relief. We now have a humanitarian disaster, unprecedented hatred between the two communities, and a new arms race on our hands. People should be happy and relieved that the war is over, but there is something inherently obscene in the self-congratulory victory talk and its spining by politicians, given the means that were used, the resulting situation, and the fact people are crammed in camps, that Kosovo and Serbia have to be rebuilt, and that peace is still elusive. All that was achieved so far was to stabilize a humanitarian disaster provoked by a "humanitarian war". We still have to deal with the consequences, and there lays the real challenge. It seems that even Blair has understood this.