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To: Machaon who wrote (11991)	6/14/1999 10:05:00 PM
From: truedog	Respond to of 17770

to: Robert Barry from: truedog Re: efforts We may be having a semantical problem here, but, you can't have "peace KEEPING" until you have peace. with bullets still whistling around the area, it can not be considered peace. The major battle in the gulf war was a thing of beauty as far as tactics and execution of them is concerned. The end around was brilliant. Yes, we won a battle. A battle does not a war make. The war against Saddam will not realize victory until he is eliminated, by whatever methods, from the scene. You seem to speak from the viewpoint of one who has never participated in combat. Forgive me if I am wrong about this. True war, on the battlefield, is not political in nature. It is made political by non-combatants. Regarding Russia; yes they are a good bit as you described them but, you forgot one tiny little detail. They still have the ICBM's to blow us to kingdom come without the constraints that were in place during the cold war. Your view of strategy and execution of tactics seems to be a bit flawed. This is not a personal attack directed at you. Many people have such a convoluted concept of war. Regards, truedog

To: Machaon who wrote (11991)	6/15/1999 12:21:00 AM
From: Andy Thomas	Respond to of 17770

>> The gulf war was one of the greatest strategic battles ever! << The campaign wasn't finished. We were afraid to really let the chips fall by ousting Sadam. There was no need to go into Baghdad. We could have simply destroyed his army in the field, which we failed to do. From a purely military standpoint that was a mistake. Bush played power politics but it took a trained eye to spot it... anyone getting all their news from CNN probably missed the nuances. Those surviving republican guards went on to squash rebellions in Basra and Kurdistan. To this day, Sadam is a useful bogeyman, as is Milosevic. I wonder who the next bogeyman will be. Let's just see how things pan out. The people won't be fooled forever, and our enemies won't sit back and let us do this sort of thing forever either. FWIW Andy