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To: Cirruslvr who wrote (83579)	6/16/1999 10:59:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Cirrus - <How about a fair, real apples to apples comparison - .25 Dixon vs. .25 K6-2 P?> But I thought the .18 Dixon was essentially equal to the .25 Dixon? PB

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (83579)	6/16/1999 12:55:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

Cringe - Re: "How about a fair, real apples to apples comparison - .25 Dixon vs. .25 K6-2 P?" No problemo ! Intel's 400 MHz Dixon, 0.25 micron, with 256K L2 cache dissipates a MAXIMUM of 13.1 watts . AMD's 400 MHz K6-2 P WITHOUT any L2 cache dissipates 16 watts. I'll add 2 watts to that to account for 256 K L2 cachae. So that puts 400 MHz AMD's K6-2 P "system" power dissipation at about 18 watts. You can "fine tune" the 2 watts - but at 100 MHz, I ball parked the power dissipation for this cache. By the way - Intel's L2 cache runs at 400 MHz - so the comparison is not quite "fair". Paul

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (83579)	6/16/1999 1:11:00 PM
From: Charles R	Respond to of 186894

Cirruslvr, "How about a fair, real apples to apples comparison - .25 Dixon vs. .25 K6-2 P?" The comparisions so far seem pretty fair to me. AMD is winning laptop sockets because of price not performance. AMD marketing guys figured out that they don't need super performance for most laptops and exploited a hole in Intel's market segmentation. It is a marketing coup not a technical achievement. For the time being, fighting with technicals on AMD's laptop chips versus Intel's is a losing battle. You might as well move on to something you can win. Regards, Chuck