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To: The Philosopher who wrote (40637)	6/16/1999 5:02:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I was talking with a buddy today about the "bad thoughts" concept and he came up with what to me is a very wise assessment. "Thinking evil stuff is being <bad word> human. We do it every <bad word> day. Thinking evil stuff and getting caught in an obsessive loop about it - there is that starting point of a <two bad words> problem." It works for me on first examination. He does have a way with <words>.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (40637)	6/16/1999 5:23:00 PM
From: jbe	Respond to of 108807

>>Is there any difference between ethical and moral behavior?<< Reposting (from a previous discussion). Realize it does not completely address your question, but it might be helpful in answering it. <g> To: Lather.Rinse.Repeat. (38585 ) From: jbe Wednesday, May 26 1999 9:03PM ET Reply # of 40642 Moral/Ethical. From Crabb's "English Synonyms": Latin mos, meaning custom, was Cicero's translation of the Greek ethikos, indicating habitual conduct. Both words, therefore, were meant to refer to a habit of right action habitual with the individual and sanctioned by the custom of the society in which he lived. But ethical has come to refer to the principles of right in the abstract, with reference to the individual character and its complete development in accordance with general human laws; moral refers to action as affecting the community and sanctioned by social and religious law. Ethical has philosophical connotations; moral practical and religious ones. When we speak of something as being ethically right, we suggest that we are going back to first principles and judging it as a matter of abstract right and wrong. When we speak of something as being morally wrong, we are thinking especially of the act in relation to society and social judgments. A slightly different, and shorter, slant, from The American Heritage Dictionary: Moral pertains to personal behavior (especially sexual) measured by prevailing standards of rectitude. Ethical approaches behavior from a philosophical standpoint; it stresses more objectively defined, but essentially idealistic, standards of right and wrong, such as those applicable to doctors, lawyers, and businesses. Think about it. Ethics has long been a major discipline within philosophy; can you imagine Morality as a branch of philosophy?? Good question, though. It can get quite confusing, since in practice people seem to use the two words interchangeably. Joan techstocks.com

To: The Philosopher who wrote (40637)	6/16/1999 10:48:00 PM
From: E	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

<<<For example, can mere thoughts be unethical? Immoral? I would toss out as a theory for examination that a mere thought cannot be unethical, but can be immoral; that ethicality has do to exclusively with behaviors, but morality can have to do with unacted on beliefs or thoughts. >>> If you imagine a person thinking about doing immoral things-- i'll choose examples we would all agree on-- tormenting animals, or molesting children-- , and you imagine that they solicit those thoughts, and subscribe to publications dwelling on this sort of imagery, and hang out with others who share such mental preoccupations, it feels like the thoughts are immoral. But actually I think the immoral part is the making-real of the thoughts, in the sense that buying a magazine is a real engagement, a sanction, talking to others is a sort of sanction.... But really, I think that thinking about immoral things in itself shouldn't be called immoral. I think it was X who pointed out that a person who hasn't had to resist immoral promptings from his or her, shall we call it, 'id,' lol, can hardly deserve a lot of credit for not performing those immoral acts. What i'm saying is the the statement "I am having immoral thoughts," could be confused for the statement, "I am thinking about immoral things." But it's not the same, of course.