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To: Doren who wrote (25174)	6/17/1999 4:23:00 PM
From: BillHoo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

<<I really love Apple computers...>> If you love them so much why don't you marry one? :-) -Bill_H

To: Doren who wrote (25174)	6/17/1999 4:24:00 PM
From: BillHoo	Respond to of 213177

Sorry I couldn't help myself. In a childish mood today. -Bill_H

To: Doren who wrote (25174)	6/17/1999 6:00:00 PM
From: yofal	Respond to of 213177

To reply to Marc's comment, which was somewhat in jest, I know, but it kind of hurt my feelings, (don't worry, not much). I really love Apple computers, but they should not be above an criticism. Doren - I'm with you on that - I'm just willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, given that they're likely juggling issues that are awfully hard to comprehend given our "here-and-now" point of view, versus their year or more headstart on us. There are probably supply and price issues involved with the ATI cards (we're just a drop in ATI's bucket afterall, no matter what earlier PR led us to believe) and Apple is in the midst of a pretty massive change in the way they do business. Hang on. Furthermore I believe the current G3 machines are really transitional in their intent - just meant to fill the void until a lot of the real changes to Apple technology (hardware and software) are in place. Is the B&W G3 the ideal pro-line Macintosh? Not really. Now it seems Apple has sabotaged the ability of BW machines to accept G4 upgrade chips (via a firmware update). Hey, now you're just taking a pessimistic view on things - even Apple Insider said that it was hard to really know what issues this may be related to: AppleInsider: Of course Apple can claim that there are some technical reasons pertaining to the timing or voltage of the new processor that would cause "potential problems," causing them to release the update. Then again, sometime down the line Apple may choose to issue a ROM updater that will remove the trap; presumably after the Power Macintosh G4 has shipped. Perhaps Apple just want to avoid a PR mess from early accelerator adopters who find that the G4's don't seem to deliver the kind of boost they had hoped for in machines and software that isn't optimized for their use - I don't know...and I don't think any of us do either. You can call it Microsoftian, but a lot of the headway that Apple has made recently could be wiped out quickly with a big failure here. ...or maybe I'm just a latent Polyanna. :-) emm

To: Doren who wrote (25174)	6/17/1999 8:54:00 PM
From: soup	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

Doren, This is a rehash of the "clone" dilemma -- who could get small quantities of the fastest chips when Apple, who had to have enough to ship in quantity, couldn't. Clone-makers (Power Computing) also hot-rodded the (7200-based) motherboards to get faster overall bench scores. Also remember that you're going to have to depend on the upgrade supplier to guarantee OSX compatibility -- 'cause Apple's sure not going to do it. Yes, within a narrow product range you're dealing with a "functional" monopoly (not "legal" given Apple's limited overall marketshare), but would you rather be buying from a company that's going out of business? You think the clone wars marked the MacOS's Golden Age?