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To: E who wrote (29371)	6/18/1999 7:39:00 PM
From: melinda abplanalp	Respond to of 71178

I don't think he needs to drive. I think he can order it. We should ask Quinnelly,bet he knows.

To: E who wrote (29371)	6/18/1999 7:50:00 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Just opened our little weekly paper and another parent is asking the district to pull a book from its library shelves. The school reviewed it and refused;; now the mother is appealing the decision- with the support of the Christian Coalition, who are ready to take it further. The book is Tiger Flowers by Patricia Quinlan, (who wrote the sweet Baby's Feet and Baby's Hands)and is about a child's losing her uncle to AIDS, aFter his partner died of it. THis mother and daughter were planting a garden and her daughter brought the book home and started reading it aloud to her mother, thinking it was about flowers. (THis made me laugh- sorry- can't you just picture it though???) THe author says while it was a gay relationship, the book was about grieving and that the disease is part of today's life. THe mother said it could be restricted to the counselor's office, but shouldn't be available generally, as some parents weren't ready to discuss this with their elementary aged children.

To: E who wrote (29371)	6/18/1999 10:28:00 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

"Why do you have to beg your children for pornography? Can't you get your own? This is a literal question, I am curious about why you would need to ask them to procure this material for you. Do you not drive?" Well, when they come to visit it is a madhouse, especially when their partners come too. We feast, and drink, and argue at all hours. We only have one big TV and its in my room. If they rent their favorite violent murderous shows, I have to watch the violence or leave them to sleep on the lanai with all the bugs and geckos. And I have so little time to spend with them before I go. Of course, I have a huge library of filthy films, but we have all looked at the for years. Everyone knows every move and groans at the appropriate moment. If we are to watch movies (not my idea) I'd like to see something like Elizabeth, or failing that something with young lustful flesh. So I say "get a skin flick" but they say "go to hell, we're into blood and violence, not kinky sex." Of course, I drive. I just got my disabled parking placard. But if I pick out the dirty pictures (seriously) I am afraid that I will pick something that disgusts them. I'm into dramatic experimental sex (especially with elderly women (which I am afraid disgusts them -- I hope they will learn better). Better they pick something they like. I can't adjust to their conventional tastes.

To: E who wrote (29371)	6/19/1999 1:38:00 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

I am with you E. I don't know how to phrase it in a short answer, but I am really uncomfortable with some of the downright weird sex stories concerning childhood and sex, and sexual education. I am all for honesty, and I answer all my children's questions. I use correct names- but I don't go any further than I need to go to answer their questions. My mother got carried away answering my questions as a child and really creeped me out at the age of 6 or 7 by getting some really graphic sex education material (meant for children) but it was wayyyyyyyyy more than I wanted to know. So I am for limited answers, and letting the child completely set the pace and NOTHING graphic. That sexually latent period between kindergarten and 4th or 5th grade is important- and innocence needs to be respected. Not the innocence that can get a kid killed (sadly we have to tell our kids about stranger danger and whackos that would hurt them) but the innocence that remains.