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To: greenspirit who wrote (40794)	6/18/1999 10:31:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

>>>>>If we are material beings skin color matters. Do we not determine the cars we drive and the clothes we wear on the basis of color? Why should we not choose our friends, or representatives on the same basis?<<<<<< Michael. You know better than this. >>>>>America would not be America were it not for our spiritual beginning. Founded on the principles of Judeo-Christian philosophy and ethic.<<<<< I know that's what some say. I don't doubt that you believe it. I don't believe it. You are not going to change my mind, and I don't think I'll change yours.

To: greenspirit who wrote (40794)	6/19/1999 9:15:00 AM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Michael: What you spout is propagandistic tripe designed to be droned by mindless robots calling themselves "thinking" Americans. America was not founded on Judeo-Christian values. Those values drove Europe at the time and Europe was a cesspool of mysticism, oppression and monarchies, offering very few individual rights. Franklin was a pornographer -- and quite good at it. Jefferson was a ladies man (like Franklin) and also had a black mistress he deeply loved. The Founding Fathers were much more than the cardboard figures today's politicians and spin doctors (or history textbooks) hoodwink the public with. FT