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To: O'Hara who wrote (40806)6/19/1999 12:20:00 AM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 108807
 
Hello shalom! good to see you're well. Unfortunately, I must leave this cave once again. The people here never fail to get rude whenever their assumptions are truly challenged. Rude people, unable to formulate a coherent debate bore me with their psuedo-intellectualism. :-)

Best to you,

Michael



To: O'Hara who wrote (40806)6/19/1999 1:24:00 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Please review the constitution of the US- no where in it is Christianity mentioned. While States may mention it- and I do not intend to read all the State Constitutions- the States are not the country. The US Constitution is supreme, except where it leaves the power to the States (clearly not in this area).

And do see Amendment 1:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So while you have the right to your free exercise so does everyone else- of whatever religion, and indeed we have the freedom from religion altogether if we choose this. Many of our founding fathers, Deists, would hardly have been in line with your Christianity. I believe your personal relationship with God would have made you very suspect at the time of America's founding. Heretical. One has to laugh at your harkening back to these forefathers who would have been scandalized by your religion. They would have understood an enlightened agnostic far more easily than an evangelical modern day Christian.



To: O'Hara who wrote (40806)6/19/1999 4:11:00 PM
From: Chuzzlewit  Respond to of 108807
 
A bit of revisionist history here:

The fact that America was founded as a Christian nation is beyond debate.

True. The proposition is totally false.

Have you forgotten the Bill of Rights? The First Amendment specifically prohibits the establishment of a state religion. Perhaps you do not consider this as American?

What about the deists who were largely responsible for writing the Declaration of Independence?

Now, if you were to argue that the vast majority of Americans were Christians at the time of the creation of The United States, that is a totally different matter. But The United States is not now and never was a theocracy even in the loosest sense.

CTC