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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jbe who wrote (40900)	6/19/1999 1:52:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

no problem, anytime. thanks dan

To: jbe who wrote (40900)	6/19/1999 9:31:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 108807

Well it seems the masses are not going to allow you to study on that yourself. Remember the statement was: "perhaps even most" ---- remember, I am not talking about those who just argued against a national religion....I would do the same. SO far names that have been brought up are : George Washington Thomas Jefferson John Adams Benjamin Franklin Thomas paine James Madison Just to kick things off here are some things that might interest you. 1.James Madison was educated at Princeton under the direction of Reverend John Witherspoon, the college declaring: "Religion is the basis and foundation of Government." ...and quotes from of his "Religious Freedom, A Memorial and Remonstrance" recorded in Americas God and Country by William Federer "It is the duty of every man to render to his Creator such homage.... .. Because the policy of this bill is adverse to the diffusion of the LIGHT of Christianity. The first wish of those who ought to enjoy THIS PRECIOUS GIFT, ought to be, that it MAY BE imparted to the whole race of mankind. Compare the numbers of those that have not yet received it, with the numbers still remaining under the dominions of false religions, and how small is the former! Does the policy of the bill tend to lesson the disproportion? No; it at once encourages THOSE WHO ARE STRANGERS TO THE LIGHT OF TRUTH, from coming into the regions of it..... (((caps of keywords mine))) OK MAdison cleared..... no non Christian would talk in such favorable terms of light and truth if he was not one.... 2. George Washington, Episcopal Vestryman Washington was for many years a vestryman at Truro Parish, his local Episcopal Church. The entry of June 5, 1772, shows Washington and his neighbor, George Mason, the author of the Virginia Declaration of Rights, engaged in parish business, including making arrangements for replacing the front steps of the church, painting its roof and selling church pews to the members as a means of obtaining revenue. The minutes of the meeting also reveal that Washington and George William Fairfax presented the parish with gold leaf to be used to gild letters on "Carved Ornaments" on the altar. The Vestry Book of Truro Parish, Virginia, 1732-1802 Manuscript volume Manuscript Division, Library of Congress (152) OK, Washington cleared by the Library of Congress records. 3. John Adams Adams's Fast Day Proclamation John Adams continued the practice, begun in 1775 and adopted under the new federal government by Washington, of issuing fast and thanksgiving day proclamations. In this proclamation, issued at a time when the nation appeared to be on the brink of a war with France, Adams urged the citizens to "acknowledge before God the manifold sins and transgressions with which we are justly chargeable as individuals and as a nation; beseeching him at the same time, of His infinite grace, through the Redeemer of the World, freely to remit all our offences, and to incline us, by His Holy Spirit, to that sincere repentance and reformation which may afford us reason to hope for his inestimable favor and heavenly benediction." Adams calls for the Trinity. Certainly Christian belief. he sure spoke of Father, Son and Holy Spirit here did he not?? Why would any non'Christian do that??? Adams out. That is three for three so far.....Will continue in day or two if anyone cares. BTW I am just using one or two quotes of each....there are many more... dan