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To: PROLIFE who wrote (40987)	6/19/1999 10:02:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Sorry, buddy, you got the wrong lady. I am a Catholic, and if you truly believe in Christ, then you believe I am a Christian. And if you don't, well, that's your problem.

To: PROLIFE who wrote (40987)	6/19/1999 10:13:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I'm sorry, you are really losing me with this argument. Are you talking about the teenaged girl who died at Littleton because she said that she believed in Jesus? What is your point, really? This child wasn't BORN believing in Jesus--she was taught (or brainwashed into) this particular belief system by family, friends, and a mostly very conservative Christian community around her, which exerted a lot of peer pressure for teenagers to participate in Christian youth groups. Now if she had been reared in another part of the world, she would just as insistently believe in another deity, and would profess as much with a gun held to her head. Her tenacity MIGHT say something about her own personal courage (or she might have been in shock at that moment). From what I was able to learn about her, she was a sensitive and remarkable girl in other ways, as well. But it says absolutely nothing positive that I can see about Christianity per se. She was just parroting back what she had been taught. You know what I was struck by when I watched her funeral on television? That all of those thousands of people in the church were somehow able to be comforted and find some logical reason for her death because JESUS WAS INVOLVED. Well, I thought that was the most foolish, pathetic display I have ever seen. I felt so sorry for all those people, because instead of just grieving for a horrendous loss, they were lost in self-delusion. But at least it comforted them. So, like my point in a post earlier today responding to the one of Del's that you found offensive, there is something about Christianity which is wimpy. An atheist mother has no such security blanket to grasp when her child dies--she just has to go through the pain, knowing life has ended, getting comfort only from her understanding of the natural rhythm of life. So it comes back to Christianity being a way of dealing with fear. If that is what it is used for (or as a reward), then I do think it is wimpy!