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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PiMac who wrote (12819)	6/20/1999 10:18:00 PM
From: George Coyne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

<< In the lives of modern Americans, there are few, if any, better examples than Clinton of the force of character making so long, so hard a journey away from the heinous and toward the good. >> Surely you jest!! G. W.

To: PiMac who wrote (12819)	6/20/1999 10:31:00 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

Then how do you explain last week's strange?

To: PiMac who wrote (12819)	6/20/1999 10:36:00 PM
From: Catfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

PiMac, For your info, I have been out of town. I realize that Clinton is a liar, sexual deviate, narcissistic, self-serving, incompetent President. You are blinded by your own self-serving interests by supporting a President who is obviously a misfit since his warped ideology matches yours. Plus, you are ignorant and chose to remain so. Your refuse to spoil the justification of your belief in Clinton by educating yourself in his shortcomings. In fact, I consider you so blinded by your misguided ideology, I think you are probably uneducatable. Until you can talk intelligently about Clinton's misdeeds, I think you are better off staying off this thread. So-long Socialist.

To: PiMac who wrote (12819)	6/20/1999 11:02:00 PM
From: Catfish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13994

Clinton and Beijing...he is a deeply corrupt and very dangerous man. Politics/Elections Opinion (Published) Keywords: CLINTON CORRUPT Source: The New Australian Published: No. 124, 21-27 June 1999 Author: Peter Zhang Posted on 06/20/1999 19:43:38 PDT by vitolins Not for commercial use I keep getting emails from American readers pleading to know how deeply Clinton has damaged American national security. In truth, I cannot say much more than I have already but I shall once again repeat myself: American security has been shattered. Chinese officials have privately bragged about the extent of their penetration, their placing of agents, their successful use of bribery and blackmail. I have heard stories that I would never repeat, though I know them to be true, because many readers would consider them fantastic. But would they be any more fantastic than a president selling his country's secrets to a potential enemy? And yet this is exactly what Clinton has done. To gain some grasp of the danger in which Clinton may very well have put America one only needs to read the Cox Report. As for Bill Clinton, I personally believe he is capable of anything, a view shared by Chinese officials who also hold him in the greatest contempt. He is not only considered treacherous but unstable. A man completely incapable of seeing beyond tomorrow. This goes someway, in Chinese eyes, of understanding his motives. I pointed out in another article that Beijing has a profile of every member of Congress and the Senate. The interesting thing is that Clinton's file goes back, so I have been told, to his student days. This information is particularly interesting because it is clearly impossible for any intelligence agency, especially a foreign one, to determine which students will always make a career out of politics. So this raises an important question: why did Chinese intelligence show an early interest in Clinton? I'm not suggesting that Clinton was involved with Chinese intelligence from when he was a student only that it was aware of what I shall call his potential. Clearly something or someone, and I'm not referring to the Russians, alerted them. Who or what has not been revealed. There is no doubt whatsoever that when Clinton became politically active Chinese intelligence in his potential was renewed and steps were taken at a very early stage in his career to cultivate a presence through third parties with well-known Asian connections. To my knowledge this has never been done with any other American politician but Beijing felt confident enough to do it with Clinton. Why? Even the densest politician would have smelt a rat so why the confidence? The key to the puzzle lies in his psychological profile. My understanding is that Chinese intelligence concluded that Clinton is bereft of any kind of morality or cultural moorings and that he is totally absorbed; a man for whom the only thing that counts is what promotes his interest regardless of the cost to others, including the nation; a man with no sense of honour, integrity or loyalty but an uncanny ability to convey the opposite feelings. It was early evidence of this ability plus his thuggishness in pursuit of his own ambitions that finally convinced Beijing that he was a political winner. Beijing knew what many still cannot see. Clinton sees the presidency as a mere trophy, a kind of political Oscar. Everything he does is geared to winning and keeping that Oscar. Curiously enough, it this destructive ambition — destructive to America, that is — leaves him as a Democrat. Now Clinton is a genuine political thug and these type of thugs are attracted to politics because of the power it gives them. Therefore when they gain power they do what they can to accumulate even more. This is why the likes of Clinton are not to be found in political parties that preach small government, the need for low taxation and the virtues of patriotism.[1] No wonder it was child's play for Beijing to manipulate Clinton. It was like bribing a child with sweets. All said and done, Clinton wilfully betrayed his country. To call Clinton a Judas would be to insult Judas whose shame led him to commit suicide. Clinton is not a flawed man, as some would have it, he is a deeply corrupt and very dangerous man. As I said, there are stories I could never repeat though I do not doubt their veracity for a moment. not for commercial use freerepublic.com

To: PiMac who wrote (12819)	6/20/1999 11:07:00 PM
From: Catfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

Kruschev's Son To Become Citizen - Says He Won't Vote For Democrats News/Current Events News Source: Federalist Digest Published: June 20, 1999 Posted on 06/20/1999 15:01:58 PDT by josiban THE FEDERALIST® DIGEST The Internet's Conservative Journal of Record federalist.com ...And last, Sergei Khrushchev, the son of former Soviet Union dictator Nikita "We will bury you" Khrushchev, will take his U.S. citizenship exam on June 23 and if he passes, will be sworn in as an American citizen in July. When asked about his American "party" affiliation, Mr. Khrushchev said, "I will not vote for Democrats -- it's too dangerous for the country."

To: PiMac who wrote (12819)	6/27/1999 1:52:00 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 13994

A.) You are assuming that he is not to blame for his initial indiscretions, but is the victim of his past; B.) If his lunge on Kathleen Willey occurred, he may not have left his raping ways behind, he may only have held back in that instance because there was too much danger; C.) He obviously did not leave his adultery, since he had some kind of affair with Monica, at a minimum; D.) Again, given the actions alleged by Kathleen Willey, we cannot say positively that he has stopped his gross come- ons, only that few have come to light; E.) Since we do not know whether or not we should credit Clinton with having changed much, and since even sexual offenders are capable of controlling themselves for periods of time when self- preservation is an issue, there is little need to invoke "character". The President lives under constant scrutiny, and with very little privacy, and yet he put his fate in the hands of an immature girl who was a pretty obvious blabbermouth while in the midst of the discovery phase of the Paula Jones litigation. This shows horrible judgment and lack of character...

To: PiMac who wrote (12819)	6/27/1999 9:37:00 AM
From: George Coyne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

Pi, You seem to be very proud of post # 12819. I read that your essential position is that since Clinton's sexual proclivities have "apparently" improved over the years, (I would argue rather over the 1 1/2 yr. since he has been "outed") that his character is demonstrated. Is that an accurate statement of your argument? Let me repeat a standard truism. IT IS NOT ABOUT SEX! Character is about INTEGRITY. From the chasm between his public and private attitude concerning women to his more general tendency to sell out any principle, or anybody for self-preservation, he has amply demonstrated that he has none. G. W.